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Just a colorful divider
Judy: Thanks much for your support! I've still got about 11 mths of funds in the "bank" right now...my only problem was getting site updated at right time of month (usually the 5th-6th) so that's why you name was there SO long. I'm trying to correct my oversight by showing two months with names until I catch up.
J Hallgren (as Moderator)
Clearwater, FL USA - Mon 02/06/2012 - 14:19:53
John - Please let us know if you need more money to keep this room running! Always happy to send some - thanks again for all your hard work.
Judy
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 02/06/2012 - 12:47:01
Bruce - Agree with you that there are much bigger issues in that locale; however, not sure why such a small town pays such a high salary for this particular position as well as a few others. Seems to me that Chatham is beginning to act like Wellesley and Newton with salaries and budgets for schools. Why is Chatham paying exorbitant "consulting fees" to former town employees such as Mr. McDonald and a few of his cronies? Once an employee leaves, he should leave - and not be hired back as a "highly over-paid consultant". . .
Judy
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 02/06/2012 - 12:45:52
I might suggest that there are bigger money issues to worry about just 474 miles south west. Those are worth worrying about.
Bruce
Eagle River, Alaska, USA - Mon 02/06/2012 - 00:08:09
Does he do his job? How often is he really at work? Why is his pay 3 times what a regular officers pay is? After all, they are the ones that make him look good!
abe froman
monomoy, USA - Sun 02/05/2012 - 18:41:32
Who gives a s#$& how much the chief makes so long as he does his job?! I can tell it's winter in Chatham when people have nothing better to do than post crap like this.
Robert
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 02/05/2012 - 18:22:14
FYI: Been way behind in updating sponsor data here and had Judy P's name on Index way past Oct 2011 so needed a way to catch up...so now I'm showing two names for next few months with dates they apply to...this way, each person will still have their name showing for a full month...hope that's ok!
J Hallgren (as Moderator)
Clearwater, FL USA - Sun 02/05/2012 - 16:26:33
The Chatham chief makes more than the col. Of the state police!
abe froman
monomoy, USA - Sun 02/05/2012 - 15:36:28
The chief is obviously to hy-inks. Taking advantage of the town.
abe froman
monomoy, USA - Sun 02/05/2012 - 15:22:50
Ok John, I will stay out of it; Sorry
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Sun 02/05/2012 - 14:53:33
Let me first say that I think Chief Pawlina is doing a GREAT job and he's the first PD Chief I've met that seemed like a real regular guy and is very pleasant to deal with...but something does seem a bit unusual in the pay for him as listed in 2010 town rpts...I've got 2007-2010 Town Report PDF's here and the changes in base appear a bit out of step with the Fire Chief and what Bill Hinchey was paid.

2007: PD=$119,523.44 FD=$100,905.64 T-Mgr=$151,363.81
2008: PD=$130,235.45 FD=$114,839.56 T-Mgr=$158,382.79
2009: PD=$144,595.73 FD=$123,071.00 T-Mgr=$167,517.55
2010: PD=$175,625.00 FD=$145,289.00 T-Mgr=$171,303.00

How did he end up at higher nbr than his boss? I'm not sure...just giving the nbrs.
J Hallgren (as user)
Clearwater, FL USA - Sun 02/05/2012 - 13:45:51
To retired Deputy Love, The Chief did not receive any pay as acting town manager, it would have kicked in if he had served in that position for more then 3 months. He did not.
Patty
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 02/05/2012 - 11:51:39
Well, I stand corrected and will check my facts better next time. But if the Police Chief is making upwards of 175,000 dollars then I say shame on the Selectmen and the former Town Manager. The 2009 Boston Payroll showed the Boston Police Commissioner earning 179,000. Is it me or are the taxpayers in Chatham getting "frisked" by our police chief?
Patty
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 02/05/2012 - 11:48:17
OK John. You run a great "room".
Wayne <alongshore2002@yahoo.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Sun 02/05/2012 - 06:24:30
Ok folks...I'm sorry that I was a bit busy and didn't do something sooner...but I'm now going to block any posts made by someone using an obvious moniker and replies specifically related to them...I don't object to the topic being discussed but the site rules need to be followed and I'll try and keep a closer eye on things here, ok?
J Hallgren (as Moderator)
Clearwater, FL USA - Sat 02/04/2012 - 22:44:59
koko be ware<-- Monikers like this are not allowed! Posts have been blocked.
The chief I beleave has a Bach degree; With the Quinn bill he mostlikely getseither 15 or 20 persent.f he has a masters it is even more.Ask for a copy of his contract, its public; Also look at the difference between Fire and Police;Also he could have gotten more money as acting TM
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Sat 02/04/2012 - 18:48:43
The town employee pay is listed in the 2010 Chatham annual report. Link found by searching Town of Chatham internet site.
Town manager $171K, Police Chief $175K

http://www.chatham-ma.gov/public_documents/ChathamMA_Manager/S01780CAA-01780DE4
M. Spencer
N. Chatham, MA USA - Sat 02/04/2012 - 15:02:46
I can't say why the Police Chief makes $140K but if the median salary for a Police Chief is OVER $95,000, then our Police Chief is in the median range. Yes?
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Sat 02/04/2012 - 12:25:26
And for the rest of the story, Doesn't the chief already collect his retirement from his job in Conn ? Some one should ask if he has ever completed his Mass Criminal Council training, or did he get a waiver ?? i would bet the a very little training is done in house. Have to have certified trainors; I will also say that I beleave that the Capt and Lieut, take care of seeing that the men get the proper training and recertifications; I would like to see what the training budget looks like. Alot of good schools out their but they cost a lot of money to attend; Again you have to blame the selectment and town manage for what he makes. They set it ; I would like to read his intire contract some time; I think he gets well taken care of, but he will never exceed the TM!!!!
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Sat 02/04/2012 - 10:39:14
"Can someone explain to me why our Police Chief makes somewhere in the vicinity of 140,000 dollars?"

The median salary for a Police Chief in the US is over $95,000. Maybe he's getting more because home prices in the area are so outrageous. There could be other reasons as well.
Chester Berne
WI USA - Sat 02/04/2012 - 10:35:46
Can someone explain to me why our Police Chief makes somewhere in the vicinity of 140,000 dollars? (and we nickle and dime everything about a new fire station) I mean, I know he views our police department as a "para-military force" as he has offered to the selectmen. But the guys training our real military forces make a whole lot less! And I question how much "training" the cheif is really doing. I'm guessing he'll be first on the list when we are looking for a new town manager in a few years... unless his rising salary exceeds hers in the coming years.
Patty
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 02/04/2012 - 09:16:38
I worked at the Ryder House for two summers. Frank Shea was the Executive
Chef,Joanne Pratt was a waitress and she and Herb rented rooms to several
College gals who also waited on tables.Peter Small,who just passed on, was the grille cook. Johnny Wargo(of Wayside Inn fame) was a bartender.So many memories
indeed. As Wayne L.has,so do I, a Menue. Leg of Lamb=$24.00 not much different from these days.Bud Kastner was,shall I say, abit hard to work for but the night we put out 1,000 dinners he gave us all a $15.00 bonus. Big money then.
Tim P.
Bridgetown, USA - Fri 02/03/2012 - 20:38:05
Don, we're so fortunate as this is what we see from our back window down here in Naples.
Sylvia <barsyl4041@netzero.net>
Naples, FL USA - Fri 02/03/2012 - 18:12:20
Chatham has wonderful ospreys. The following film is a remarkable close-up of what these birds do:

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=110787
Don Edge
Cherry Hill, NJ USA - Fri 02/03/2012 - 17:18:29
Jim - Did you ever make that oatmeal bread recipe??
Mom
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/02/2012 - 21:38:09
Seeing as how it's Super Bowl Weekend, it sure would be nice to have some roast beef sandwiches on Haven's oatmeal bread! Now if we only had the recipe....
Chester Berne
WI USA - Thu 02/02/2012 - 18:44:50
"the more things change, the more they stay the same"
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/02/2012 - 06:29:55
1969 That was the year I was in Vietnam. Carl I think you were lucky, had I been here you might have some competition for that good looking women that you married. Those were the days!
Wayne <alongshore2002@yahoo.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Wed 02/01/2012 - 21:28:46
Carl: I Only went to Cornell and studied practical stuff: please translate.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 02/01/2012 - 18:23:39
Carol was a waitress at the Chrisopher Ryder House in the summer of 1969. They split the tips five ways - hostess, bus boys, bartenders, partner waitress and self. In September she came to work with me at The Captain's Table to make some real money in order to backpack Europe with her two girlfriends. She came back in December and we were married in February. For her, as she told her roommates in September, "to the most obnoxious person she had ever met." Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 02/01/2012 - 06:30:04
When I was a Sergeant in the Army in Vietnam one night I was serving Charge of Quarters with a young 2nd Lt. who was new in country. We were doing the "where are you from" thing and I said Cape Cod and he said do you know a place called Chatham. I said yes and he said that he had been there one summer when he was in collage and worked at the Christopher Ryder House. We talked and realized we may have been at the same parties that summer but never knew each other. We stayed good friends for a while.
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/31/2012 - 19:43:44
I wanted to work at the Ryder House but my father forbid it(!) So I got three of my college buddies from Ohio to work there and they DID have tales to tell. I guess Daddy knows best. I worked at the Queen Anne Inn instead.
Emily
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Tue 01/31/2012 - 10:51:56
With the approach of the 100th anniversary (April 15) of the TITANIC disaster, a question occurred to some of my colleagues as to whether or not in Chatham or nearby villages there exist descendants or more distant relatives of the victims or survivors. Chatham Marconi Maritime Center and the National Park Service plan to present an "event" for a few days leading up to the fateful night, and are very interested in any pertinent information that might be gleaned from those in the know.
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Mon 01/30/2012 - 10:31:08
The name of one of the Ryder house fellows who had the bar bar there in late forties was Jans. 1st. name possibly Bill. My memory sometimes turns on at the oddest moments!
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Mon 01/30/2012 - 08:38:27
Well Carol, I think it's time to tell us some tales!! It's awful quiet in this room.
Sylvia <barsyl4041@netzero.net>
Naples, FL USA - Sun 01/29/2012 - 17:47:06
Nancy Petrus and I worked together at the Ryder House in the late 50's early 60's and we do have some tales to tell. It was an experience I will NEVER forget..........and neither will Nancy ! ! !
Carol Kelley
West Chatham, MA USA - Sun 01/29/2012 - 14:47:05
For those asking about Will, go here http://willarchibald.blogspot.com/
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Sun 01/29/2012 - 10:57:55
Much sympathy to Dave and his family upon hearing the sad news.
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Sun 01/29/2012 - 09:32:42
A fine young man named Will Archibald has passed away after some tough times. Condolences to Dave, Betsy, and Emily.
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Sat 01/28/2012 - 19:39:01
Nancy Ryder Petrus is enroute to CA, or else she'd probably tell of her experiences working at the Ryder House as a waitress. I went there once at the end of the season and enjoyed a buffet you couldn't imagine: all the lobsters you could eat, as well as anything else. Mr. Kastner was trying to clean out the refrigerators. I used to lug Ms. Kastners groceries from the old A&P next to the Chatham Theater to her huge car, back in the mid 50's.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Sat 01/28/2012 - 09:07:55
Oh, The great rider review; I still have one of the old posters and menue
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Fri 01/27/2012 - 18:34:21
Christopher Ryder House: in the latter forties two fellows bought the place and had a bar there.I just can not remember if they served meals there or not.But I am very sure of the time frame. The Kastners moved it back from the road and things progressed from there. A few years back I saw the name of one of the fellows in a newspaper and he was living in Boothbay, Maine.
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Fri 01/27/2012 - 17:26:55
Tim, The Ryder House was open from the mid fifties until 1983. For more info there is a Facebook page.
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Fri 01/27/2012 - 13:31:35
Tim W: Not sure when the CRH operated but a search of posts here show we may have a few who worked there still around this site...and property appraisers site shows a "Year built" date of 1985 for the condo's with a couple of ownership transfers at/around 85-86.
J Hallgren (as user)
Clearwater, FL USA - Fri 01/27/2012 - 13:05:49
Can anyone give me a rough idea of when the Christopher Ryder House operated? I think it was converted to condos in the 1980s (or maybe 90s), but I'm not sure when it began.
Tim Wood <twood@capecodchronicle.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 01/27/2012 - 09:50:09
Thanks John B. You missed buy and multiloquy. Rebuy does not appear in my dictionary. By the way, it never crossed my mind to use an internet search. TOO easy.
BobR
CQX, MA USA - Fri 01/27/2012 - 07:50:43
In the internet world, tests like words that end in uy are to easy. It took me all of 2 seconds to get the answer.
http://www.morewords.com/ends-with/uy/
Matt <southchatham@hotmail.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/26/2012 - 18:46:55
Dear Mr. Ryder,

Here are 15 words that end in "uy."

cliquy
colloquy
exequy
guy
obloquy
obsequy
outbuy
overbuy
plaguy
rebuy
soliloquy
underbuy
ventriloquy
wiseguy
John B.
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/26/2012 - 15:00:35
Moderator note: 'koko be ware' was from 'Nauset' : Nauset, whoever you are;That question should be presented to the boad of selectmen as they are the ones that drw up his contract when he/she is hired and again every three years; You wont get answer from them either!
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Thu 01/26/2012 - 12:09:11
koko be ware<-- Monikers like this are not allowed! Posts have been blocked.
Slyvia,no more e-mails till March.I will be in Florida.If I could figure out how to e-mail I would Irene
Irene God Bless America
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/26/2012 - 09:19:23
Correct, John. I'll save you a few littlenecks next time I go.

Now, for the rest of you lurkers - list five English words that end in UY.
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Thu 01/26/2012 - 08:15:29
Sylvia, I don't really know what he did with them....whether anyone rode them, or what.
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 01/25/2012 - 13:28:31
Dan and Jane.......What did Freeman do with the horses? Did he just board other peoples horses?
Sylvia <barsyl4041@netzero.net>
Naples, FL USA - Wed 01/25/2012 - 10:13:39
Bob-
Onomatopoeia
John
USA - Tue 01/24/2012 - 22:47:24
Sylvia,
the horses were down in the hollow behind and under the bycycle barn. I can understand that you my not have known, because you were a 1/4 of a mile away
dan meservey <danmeservey@aol.com>
w. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/24/2012 - 20:51:11
Cannot think of the word, but I liked her, as my mother liked her also. I remember one day she entered the classroom and as she approached her desk she slipped and fell to her knees. Without missing a beat she looked up and said,"Well I guess I didn't say my prayers today"
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/24/2012 - 18:42:08
Anyone else remember Mary Ella's favorite word?

Begins with o and ends with a.

I share Helen Worthing Smith's opinion of Mary Ella's tactics.
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Tue 01/24/2012 - 16:22:37
Jane, Freeman having horses must have been before my time, as I don't ever remember seeing them, only the bicycles he use to restore and where all ours came from. Your 'Princess' is the only horse I remember. I got on once sitting behind Cynthia, who was on the saddle, so I had to sit on the bare back and when it got time to get off I didn't dare lift myself over to the saddle and climb down ( I was very small at that time and it was a long way down to the ground), so I waited until the grocery man, Cyril Cahoon came and helped me off.
Sylvia <barsyl4041@netzero.net>
Naples, FL USA - Tue 01/24/2012 - 15:33:28
I thought Mary Ella was a great teacher. She loved to come by and pinch your cheek! When she smiled, she showed her "gold" tooth - she had a raspy voice. She lived right up the road from where I was brought up in West Chatham. Her husband, Freeman, owned some horses, and I loved to go and visit them (the horses!!) One of the things that stands out in my memory is of the "Weekly Reader" and how we had to get up front and give an oral report - how I hated that!!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/24/2012 - 14:59:36
I just watched the 1/10 BOS meeting. Our schools are in BIG trouble if the school committee chairman (who is a VP of finance) cannot perform simple arithmetic. He said he's lived in West Chatham since 1976 and that's 37 years!
Jon Eldredge <spledeus@c4.net>
West Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/24/2012 - 12:13:25
I often got a double dose of Mary Ella. And not all bad either. Maybe it paid to be a relative as she was a half sister to my grandfather, Otis Howes, who lived on Old Harbor Rd., right behind the schoolhouse. Sometimes I would walk to my grandparents' house after school, walk into their kitchen, and there would be Mary Ella sitting in a chair. She wouldn't have dared to pinch my cheeks at their house as she did in her classroom. A lasting impression. My mother, Reliance Howes Olson, also had her as a teacher.
Anna
USA - Tue 01/24/2012 - 12:07:51
Mary Ella taught my father and myself. I couldn't stand her. I used to cringe when Miss Hammond later Mrs. Brown whacked Joanne Chase's hands with a fistful of rulers. Those things certainly did not make anyone a better student or any smarter.
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Tue 01/24/2012 - 08:57:39
I wonder how many of these teacher people aforementioned had actually taught father, mother and 4 children of the same family as did the height challenged Mary Ella! I can still feel her port and starboard cheek pinches and the ruler whacks on my hands. I probably deserved it. Poor soul would be arrested now for child abuse.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 01/23/2012 - 20:42:59
Linda Marchal- those who have gone on to the great blackboard in the sky: James Alcock 2010,Miss Batson 1992,Mr Calarese 1993,Mr Cole 2001,Mr Elliott 2010,Mrs Finlayson 2004,Mr Fougere 2008,Pete Hartley 1982,Mr Livingston 2008,Mr Randall 1979,Mr Sammartano 1981,Whit Tileston 1995
Cynthia Moore <cynthiamoore120@yahoo.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/23/2012 - 08:37:24
I believe Mr Elliott passed on several years ago.
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 01/22/2012 - 18:51:50
Hi Linda...Mr. Elliot (married to Miss Tardiff) and Bob Marshall are still around, living in Harwich.
dan <danchatham@verizon.net>
USA - Sun 01/22/2012 - 16:57:25
Our family lived in Chatham (on Barn Hill Rd. and Vineyard Ave.) for several years during the late 50's and early 60's. I attended all 4 years of high school at Chatham. I was wondering if any of the teachers who taught there at that time were still living...such as Mr. Elliott, Mr. Hill, Mr. Macbeth,and any others,etc. They were such good teachers and interesting characters!
Am fascinated by the Chatham shark stories on the internet!
Linda Marchal Ludwa
Centralia, IL USA - Sun 01/22/2012 - 14:07:29
Yes, 'twas I. I think it was Diane Matteson who put my name in. The cement didn't harden up as quickly as they wanted, so I had to wait around a while. They gave me extra money for being patient.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 01/22/2012 - 07:55:32
That must have been a first for you Crayton!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 01/22/2012 - 04:06:29
Eight Inches on my deck, felt good not having to work on it!!!
Crayton Nickerson <cnick2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 01/21/2012 - 21:09:16
Richard Ryder, I stuck up for you on facebook, where a discussion on "If you grew up on Cape Cod" was remembering the Barefoot Trader. Someone asked whose feet were used in the walk. Someone said it was (I forget who), but not the correct answer. We all know it was you.
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 01/21/2012 - 20:15:57
And it looks like there's more to come, good luck!
Chester Berne
Green Bay, WI USA - Sat 01/21/2012 - 17:59:05
This morning we had nothing and now almost ten inches - I guess something does come from nothing after all, or after the fall (as in autumn).
Chowderman <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 01/21/2012 - 17:20:11
Nothing but maybe 8 inches of nice fluffy snow today!
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Sat 01/21/2012 - 17:19:49
I hear it is clouding up down there! Good luck, hang in there!
Bruce
Eagle River, Alaska, USA - Sat 01/21/2012 - 17:13:48
Good 'ole Chatham, nothing much going on!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 01/21/2012 - 04:18:36
Cauliflower is nothing but cabbage with a college education.
Mark Twain
Chester Berne
Green Bay, WI USA - Fri 01/20/2012 - 17:18:20
As Joe Stapeldon used to say "nothing from nothing is two, two nothings"
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Fri 01/20/2012 - 17:04:15
Nothing from Nothing leaves Nothing.
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 01/20/2012 - 15:32:40
Does nothing come from nothing or does something come from nothing?
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 01/20/2012 - 15:24:18
As my grandmother Reb Ryder would say, "Blessed be nothing".
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 01/20/2012 - 15:08:55
I would say nothing, Jane!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 01/20/2012 - 04:22:44
What's going on here???? Nothing all week!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/19/2012 - 21:47:19
Pat LOVED sardines on saltines, Bruce!! Also, my mother and my grandmother used to make creamed codfish w/boiled potatoes in their skins; another way, which we liked better was salt codfish w/pork scraps w/boiled potatoes. A good 'ole Yankee staple!!!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/16/2012 - 15:39:01
"Sailor Allen" what a cook he was! A weekend spent at his Monomoy camp was a sure way to enjoy real seafood delights.
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Mon 01/16/2012 - 09:09:41
Aunt Nora Harding's creamed salted cod over mashed potato with pork scraps and
a bowl of "Sailor" Allen's coot stew!
Tim P.
Bridgetown, USA - Mon 01/16/2012 - 08:23:38
My wife's family used to make cod balls from "Cape Cod Turkey". It's quite a process, but worth it.
Chester Berne
Green Bay, WI USA - Sun 01/15/2012 - 23:12:55
How about recipes for "Cape Cod Turkey" It is a favorite of mine But is done in many different ways.
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Sun 01/15/2012 - 22:09:28
Sardines on saltines w/ lemon juice dripped upon them while fishing for halibut.
bruce
eagle river, alaska, USA - Sun 01/15/2012 - 20:18:45
OK, now let's hear a few of your favorite recipes for the other end of the scale of delectable treats from the sea - sardines.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 01/15/2012 - 19:26:09
This Room really made a memorable repast - 1 1/2 mayo, 1/2 Dijon mustard, 1/2 fresh lemon juice whisked together - fold in thinly diced celery and green onion tops then add fresh tarragon to taste - finally salt and pepper - bring together with the meat from a 1 1/2 lb lobster then refrigerate for 6 hours - side cut hot dog buns slathered with butter toasted until golden - fill with lobster salad then drizzle remaining butter over top - serve with your favorite wine at sunset then kick back and think of the Cape - Incredible! Thanks to all
Ben Hallowell <benhallowell@yahoo.com>
Coronado, CA USA - Fri 01/13/2012 - 22:02:37
Lobstah salad and blackened swordfish----OMG!
bruce
eagle river, alaska, USA - Fri 01/13/2012 - 16:51:09
I agree with Carl and also to marinate fresh swordfish (we'd get a call from the Fish Pier when they were bringing one in) steaks in a little olive oil and tarragon before throwing them on the grill. Ah, the memories!
Chester Berne
Green Bay, WI USA - Fri 01/13/2012 - 14:34:38
I am with Jane and I find a light dash of tarragon a nice touch.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 01/13/2012 - 13:13:10
My first job was working for a restaurant up there and one of my jobs, a salad plate the included a scoop of lobster salad. Ours was delicious and pretty much as listed, though I don't know if lemon juice was added and that sounds good. One helpful hint, make sure the lobster meat is well drained before adding the mayo, etc. or your filling will be very drippy. Bon appetite!
Melissa
USA - Fri 01/13/2012 - 09:49:04
Ben....don't forget the New England style hot dog buns...grilled with a little butter. Oh....my mouth is watering!
Emily
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Fri 01/13/2012 - 09:07:21
Ben, I always add a bit of lemon juice to the mayo - I do like more mayo than just a "pinch"! Yum Yum!!!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/12/2012 - 13:42:06
Benji, just a whisper of mayo and maybe a little celery, salt and pepper. Don't over load it with mayo.. Wish I was there with you !!!
Jean Pratt
Chatham , MA USA - Thu 01/12/2012 - 10:02:06
Wayne, Shareen, yes I believe it was Cobbie. As I recall he used to smoke a pipe quite frequently also. A very amiable fellow. We finally got our first real taste of winter here in central Missouri..I woke up to 20* and about 2" of snow. Not wanting to trade with Bruce though..
Bill N.
MO USA - Thu 01/12/2012 - 07:09:58
Late Christmas present arrived today - live New England lobsters from Legal Seafood. Anyone happen to have a favorite recipe for that great lobster salad which used to go into the lobster rolls at the Clam Bar or other similar spots. All I remember is they were delicious and "sloppy" which I guess means abundant mayo was in them.
Ben H <benhallowell@yahoo.com>
Coronado, CA USA - Thu 01/12/2012 - 00:52:08
Chet---you killed the room and by btw, 18 more inches of snow coming in tonite. We`re having fun now!
bruce
eagle river, alaska, USA - Wed 01/11/2012 - 15:14:07
Wow Bruce, I thought the U.P. of Michigan was bad, averaging about 250 inches in the north with a record of 390 inches. I hope your condo association does all the snow removal!
Chester Berne
Green Bay, WI USA - Mon 01/09/2012 - 21:38:09
Chester....I have a condo on the west side of Prince William Sound and they have an annual snowfall of about 400 inches. I have 3 feet of snow in my yard..and on the roof. This is the most snow Anchorage has has in over 30 years. It is getting old.
bruce
eagle river, alaska, USA - Mon 01/09/2012 - 19:17:12
Or, as Shelley wrote, "If Winter comes, can Spring be far behind?"
Anders
USA - Mon 01/09/2012 - 18:37:00
Same here, I think we've gotten about 3 inches of snow so far this season. My back and checkbook certainly aren't complaining, but the snowplow guys, ski resorts and Lake Michigan sure are!

Say, maybe we'll have a nice blizzard for the Giants next Sunday afternoon.
Chester Berne
Green Bay, WI USA - Mon 01/09/2012 - 18:35:30
Wow! So far, this has been a woefully wimpy winter weather-wise! But, as Capt. Dave says, "You still have two months to go".
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 01/09/2012 - 18:02:21
Say Bruce, you don't happen to live near Cordova, do you?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-01-09/alaska-buried-snow/52464070/1?csp=34news
Chester Berne
WI USA - Mon 01/09/2012 - 09:20:00
Kenneth Cobb Nickerson. I fished with him during the winter of 1964-65 on an elderly 35' boat named EVELYN B.
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Sun 01/08/2012 - 10:39:14
What was his first name?
Tony Murphy <redcat23@verizon.net>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Sun 01/08/2012 - 07:20:43
I wondered for nearly 50 years how Cobbie got his nickname. Far simpler than I imagined - middle name was Cobb!
BobR
CQX, MA USA - Sat 01/07/2012 - 10:58:41
Bill
My grandfather Cobbie Nickerson had a small green boat with a cuddy and shellfished. The boat was the Evelyn B named after my grandmother. His black dog was named Gussie.
Shareen Davis
shareen <shareendavis@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 01/06/2012 - 14:15:48
Cynthia, Thank you so much for the photos and info! I have a friend who has a place there and is interested in the history. I have sent all the stuff off to her. And yes I remember the donuts being especially good!
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/05/2012 - 19:55:55
Bill, I think it might be Cobby Nick. The boat was a little bigger than you remember maybe 24 ft. One of the last Sheverick"s from over Dennis way.
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/05/2012 - 19:47:34
Maybe it was Harold Claflin?
Sylvia and Barry <barsyl4041@netzero.net>
Naples, FL USA - Thu 01/05/2012 - 19:14:38
Wayne, the chronicle first started thier paper there.
Irene God Bless America
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/05/2012 - 18:32:44
Bill, Sorry not my father, he never had a dog.
Crayton Nickerson, Jr <cnick2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/05/2012 - 14:59:48
Bill, Barry thinks it was probably Creighton Nickerson you're thinking of.
Sylvia and Barry <barsyl4041@netzero.net>
Naples, FL USA - Thu 01/05/2012 - 13:27:32
here is the link to the Chatham Donut Shop album on facebook- open to public.I will add a photo soon of what it looks like now and other info.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2801041638858.135968.1643076638&type=1&l=dc7d13e702
Cynthia Moore <cynthiamoore120@yahoo.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/05/2012 - 11:05:40
The Chatham Donut and Coffee shop was owned by Thorn and Ruth Campbell first then my parents bought it in 1962 and owned it through 1964- they divorced and sold it to a guy named Peterson. I will post a few photos on facebook and make them public they are black & white Poloroids. so beware!
My dad made the best donut in the entire world- helped by my brother Jerry who made the best donut in the entire world when Dad was under the weather.Great place to work-so many people met and everyone so friendly.
Cynthia Moore <cynthiamoore120@yahoo.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/05/2012 - 10:06:32
Can someone help me with a name. He was an older shellfisherman who mostly worked Stage Harbor in the early 70's. He had a green boat, about 20' with a small cuddy cabin up front. His partner was his small old black dog. As I recall he sold to Pogie, as most of us did back then. Thanks.
Bill N.
MO USA - Thu 01/05/2012 - 09:50:14
The coffee shop in the Senter building was run by Cynthia Moore's parents.if I remember correctly. Maybe Cynthia will respond.
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/05/2012 - 09:37:21
Carl, I think there is a picture of Coot in all his gear on the wall of the CCCHook Fishermen's Building (Mercy Kendrick's house)- along with Ralph Nickerson's, and many other local fishermen.
Helen - I guess "Biddy" was my father's nickname for her!! My mother said she used to go to the carnivals and ride sidesaddle on the Merry-go-round horses, waving her handkerchief at everyone!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 01/04/2012 - 21:16:48
@ Wayne G. Sonny Walker had a barber shop there at Post Office Square.
I wanted to say Fran Chapin had a coffee shop there also,but that was downtown,
next to Margaret Carr's real estate office.
Anyone remember getting a haircut from Tom Janes after 1:00pm,when he had had
a taste?? Oh,It hurt and the Bay Rum stung so much! Willard Nicholas was much
more easy. Then there was Old Joe Orlando,what a nice man and great barber he was! Then, walk up to the Mayflower,big big of candy for 15 cents and get yelled at by old Capt.Sweeney. And then,if there was any money left,Ice cream at
Port Forutne for 10 cents all delivered by the hand of Ruth Hacket.
Tim P.
Bridgetown, USA - Wed 01/04/2012 - 20:36:30
Wayne,there was a small coffee shop next to senters, I think Dick Matterson first wife worked there; Sheps sister linda wright, living in maine might remember. or Bob Moore, Chatham woodworking might remember.You recall that Sheps building was moved from out front back when the new PO was built.
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Wed 01/04/2012 - 19:55:31
Sorry Carl, I can do Pat but not Coot. But do you or anyone remember the coffee shop that was on the other end of the building from Shep Senter's behind the Post Office? If so who ran it and what was it called? And what else has been in there? Thanks!
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Wed 01/04/2012 - 19:45:21
Does anyone know where I might borrow a photograph of Coot Cahoon, perhaps in his oilskins or with his oars and quahog rake or other tools of the shore?

Thank you.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 01/04/2012 - 12:39:32
I always heard the Robbins girls who had a store across Route 28 from "Fish Bish"s called Icky and Cackie.
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Wed 01/04/2012 - 07:31:10
"Biddy" Robbins (Carrie Robbins) -
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/03/2012 - 21:09:46
@ Richard,The Dutchess,Mary Dink,The painted Doll,Else Deak,
Auntie Hoo Do. That's for starters. I'll think of more if memory
serves.
Tim P.
Bridgetown, Barbados - Tue 01/03/2012 - 20:35:09
Certainly I knew some of these men. Even spent some some time on the waters with them. How about let's name some nicknames for women we grew up with in the 40's and 50's?
(Maybe there weren't any nicknames for them.)
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 01/03/2012 - 19:52:27
Thanks Bob
Let's see Cobby was my grandfather, Porkchop my uncle, Pickwick my great uncle. Club was Ernie's uncle, Lamb chop work for us trapping. I knew Tiggy, Coot, Cupcake and Rip the Red neck. I think I knew Dink too.
Great names...
Shareen <shareendavis@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/03/2012 - 12:27:53
"Needlenose" was my Uncle Steven, now deceased. He was my mother's brother. He was a rascal, a rogue, a scoundrel, and quite nefarious. He was quite a colorful fellow, to say the least.
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/03/2012 - 08:04:38
Hungry was a nicname they used to call my Uncle George!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/03/2012 - 03:15:07
Shareen, here's a few you to contemplate. All of them were related to fishing in one form or another.

Pirate, Portland, Snarly Joe (aka Wiry Joe), Dry, Club, Cupcake, Kaiser, Rip the Redneck, Rip, Mag, Hag, Haglet, Pickwick, Porkchop, Lambchop, Springs, The White Savage, Dink, Handler, Hungry, Cack, Tack, Dipnet, Pachyderm, Fingers, Coot, Beaut, Sonny (aka Gus), Tiggie, Cobby, Rat, Troll Brothers, Gunny, Doc, Needlenose, and several others that would not be happy for their descendants to see their nickanmes.

Happy New Year - be sure to let Ernie see this!
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Mon 01/02/2012 - 14:54:01
Happy New Year everyone. I am working on a small project related to fishing folks and was wondering if anyone knows how George " Pogie" Johnson and Jim ( Haddock Lips) Maderios got their nicknames. Any other fish related nicknames out there?
Shareen
Shareen <shareendavis@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/02/2012 - 13:49:30
The fireworks were fantastic!
Matt <southchatham@hotmail.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Sun 01/01/2012 - 13:56:34
Happy New Year Room!
Bruce
Eagle River, Alaska, USA - Sun 01/01/2012 - 12:16:34
Happy New Year to all The people on the Chat Room. May 2012 be the best year for our Town's 300th anniversary.
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 01/01/2012 - 04:01:53
For those who may be interested. Peter Small, a classmate and friend to many in Chatham with the Model A club, passed away Xmas eve. A service was held in Celabration, Florida today, but there will be a memorial in Chatham this spring.
dan meservey <danmeservey@aol.com>
w. Chatham, MA USA - Sat 12/31/2011 - 23:37:18
Happy New Year to all the Chat-M Room! May we all get together again in 2012 and may the Chatham and its character(s) we all remember stay with us through this room.
ben h
coronado, CA USA - Sat 12/31/2011 - 21:22:54
Wishing everyone a Happy and Healthy New Year!!
Crayton Nickerson <cnick2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 12/31/2011 - 20:59:59
Wishing everyone a safe and joy-filled NYE, together with a new year that is peaceful, prosperous, and full of good health!
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Sat 12/31/2011 - 11:35:20
Does anyone know what time tomorrow our local Polar Bear Club dives into the Oyster Pond?
Richard Woodward
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 12/31/2011 - 08:41:44
I was very proud of our local Firemen yesterday. A nice tribuite to fellow Fireman, Charlie.
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 12/31/2011 - 03:44:40
12.29.2011 CHATHAM --- The Massachusetts Historic Commission has ruled at the North Beach Island camps slated for demolition by the Cape Cod National Seashore are not eligible for listing on the National Register of Historic Places. The request by camp owners and leaseholders was a final effort to stop the Seashore from razing the five camps it owns after the current leases expire Dec. 31.
Mike
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 12/29/2011 - 14:32:32
CHATHAM --- The Massachusetts Historic Commission has ruled at the North Beach Island camps slated for demolition by the Cape Cod National Seashore are not eligible for listing on the National Register of Historic Places. The request by camp owners and leaseholders was a final effort to stop the Seashore from razing the five camps it owns after the current leases expire Dec. 31.
Mike
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 12/29/2011 - 14:30:04
Bill Eldredge, son of Madeline and Clement, runs it now - with the help of his two sons, David and Lester.
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 12/27/2011 - 21:38:44
Dana: Re Eldredge Garage: someone in the Eldredge family still owns it and runs a parking lot, a taxi service and a shuttle to the lighthouse.
Lisa Edge
Cherry Hill, NJ USA - Tue 12/27/2011 - 20:56:10
Being 'sort of' mechanically inclined I understand what happened....and find it hard to believe how quickly time passes....2005...seems like just last year! And I completely understand the occasional repair bill (even if it is large) versus four or five years of monthly car payments...and what do you have after all those payments? another old car! You are way ahead ...I drive an '85 with over 200 thousand miles on it. Granted it is not pretty andnot worth spending saturday polishing....but Idon't care....it beats walklin'!
dan <danchatham@verizon.net>
USA - Mon 12/26/2011 - 16:07:23
Dan, you're correct that I had replaced the engine but that was in 2005 and 55K miles ago thus any warranty is long gone plus what they say happened was that someone had used the wrong bolt (too long) when reinstalling the tensioner at some point so it punctured jacket (not a mechanic so not 100% sure of terms). They tried to fix it via sealant in Sep 2010 and that lasted 15 mths and 7K miles. But when I look at my total costs for repairs over years, it's still cheaper than buying a newer car and finding somthing fitting my size and needs is quite a challenge!
J Hallgren (as user)
Clearwater, FL USA - Mon 12/26/2011 - 12:03:26
Was driving through town the other day and happened to notice the generally dilapidated state of Eldredge's garage property and the structures thereon. Who owns this? Is any business still being operated out of it? Just curious. It is such a landmark.
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Mon 12/26/2011 - 10:52:00
John...granted the ole Cavalier has a few miles on it....BUT don't I recall that is a new replacement engine? Seems to me you should have some recourse for a defective cylinder head or head gasket. Just sayin.......
dan <danchatham@verizon.net>
USA - Mon 12/26/2011 - 10:21:06
Finally made it back to my FL home on Christmas Day at 3pm! Had planned to leave on the Sat 17th but car had a coolant leak on the 15th and ended up in Chevy dealer from 9am on Fri 16th to 2pm on Thurs 22nd where eventually they had to replace cylinder head for a very hefty amt! But it's still cheaper than buying a new car...most of my friends say I'm wasting money on the ole Cavalier but as I view it, compared to what I spend on health insurance, it's not that bad...and now that I'm done with cottages for a while, I'll work on catching up on other things like how far behind I've gotten with maintaining this site.
J Hallgren (as user/Moderator)
Clearwater, FL USA - Mon 12/26/2011 - 09:11:26
Jim--Congrats on your successes....Private to Colonel is the hard way, I got that t-shirt too. Agree about the ride but I`ll bet you wouldn`t change a day of it. I`ll get the book but hold on to the movie rights!
bruce
eagle river, alaska, USA - Sun 12/25/2011 - 15:51:46
Merry Christmas to everyone
Irene God Bless America
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 12/25/2011 - 11:40:42
The Conch twins have even more reason to be proud of their Dad... Hope Santa finds his way to the cornfields tonight... You are one special guy Jim P!
Ben H
Coronado, CA USA - Sat 12/24/2011 - 22:18:14
Bruce, started as a private and may go out as a private......Colonel has been fun but overall - as you well know - it has been one hell of a ride!

Merry Christmas folks.
JimP
Scott Afb, USA - Sat 12/24/2011 - 21:59:46
Jim....so much for the next promotion board, eh?
Bruce
Eagle River, Alaska, USA - Sat 12/24/2011 - 10:22:49
Here is wishing all of you the joy, love, and bounty of this holiday season all year long.
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Sat 12/24/2011 - 09:17:34
The actual title is:Fighting Today's Wars, How America's Leaders Failed Our Warriors.

Not sure yet how our "leaders" will react. I think the good leaders will love it; the poor ones......not so much.

Too many of our kids have died and are horribly maimed for unspecified national interests of late. It's been time for quite a while to either clarify our goals and fight the damned war(s), or bring our kids home. Maybe have some of the politicians go and fight and maybe we'd see a sea-change in attitudes and policy.

Hope you all have a great Christmas (we can still say that.....) and that the great quahog leaves lots of presents! Jim, Jen, Ashley, Jimmy and Bear.
JimP
Scott Afb, USA - Sat 12/24/2011 - 08:54:44
Yes, Cynthia - I guess they never expected the deluge they are receiving - Jim hasn't even received his copies yet.
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 12/23/2011 - 15:12:48
No, Bruce, he doesn't have his retirement papers in YET - I'm not exactly sure just how much longer he has left in IL. - then, I think he is retiring.
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 12/23/2011 - 15:11:43
Jane- I see it is already temporarily out of stock.Book sounds interesting- good luck to them.
Cynthia Moore <cynthiamoore120@yahoo.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Fri 12/23/2011 - 13:04:52
So Jane........Does this mean he has his retirement papers in?
Bruce
Eagle River, Alaska, USA - Fri 12/23/2011 - 12:18:00
My son, Jim, has written a book which has just been released - (He co-authored the book with a buddy) - It is available on Amazon.com and will be out in stores within a couple of weeks. The title is "Fighting America's Wars: How America's leaders Have Failed Our Warriors"-Ralph Peters, of Fox, says "One of the most important books to emerge from a decade of wars. Read it. Then send a copy to your member of Congress."
From a "proud mom"!!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 12/23/2011 - 11:13:33
answer to Jayne-
Many explanations for multiple deaths- house fire- birth defects-still births of twins or triplets. I doubt anything went on without public or official scrutiny, especially in the 1950s- had you said the 1850s records were not that well kept and may be misleading.
Cynthia Moore <cynthiamoore120@yahoo.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Fri 12/23/2011 - 08:53:05
I remeber in Mrs. Crowell's class we had to stand up in front of the class and recite whatever we had to learn, I being bashful at the time would ask if I could recite whatever it was at my desk and as I started and everyone turned around to look at me, I would stop. Go back after school in front of Mrs. Crowell I did it letter perfect, or almost. Guess I got over that one! I was only a year behind you Helen! Merry Christmas everyone.
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 12/23/2011 - 04:17:46
Was it routine for multiple children to die as infants in one family in the 1950's in Chatham? Were deaths like this considered to be suspicious at all?
Jayne Marquit <pandapals2@comcast.net>
Brewster , MA USA - Thu 12/22/2011 - 23:59:32
I'm not sure, either, Helen. Definitely one of them.
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 12/22/2011 - 21:01:53
I think Ms. Crowell had given up on me, as I don't remember much about reciting things from memory. So I spent two class periods a day in Shop class.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 12/22/2011 - 16:55:16
Helen, I fail to remember which teacher......but I certainly remember the recitation.
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 12/22/2011 - 11:23:27
Mrs Crowell for me too. Also had to write a fairly extensive report.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 12/22/2011 - 08:32:50
Oh,Oh Ben Tom Sparkes was the one whom I remember forcing us to memorize it. Did Mrs. Crowell piok it up when you younger ones came along? Nancy, Jane anyone else remember about that?
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Thu 12/22/2011 - 08:27:58
Helen, Thank you for "Snowbound" by John Greenleaf Whittier. I struggled with that in Mrs. Josephine Crowell's class!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 12/21/2011 - 18:31:48
"The purposes of Cape Cod National Seashore are to:

Preserve the nationally significant and special cultural and natural features, distinctive patterns of human activity, and ambiance that characterizes the Outer Cape, along with the associated scenic, cultural, and recreational values.

Provide opportunities for current and future generations to experience, enjoy, and
understand these features and values."

CCNS General Management Plan, 1998

I'm hard pressed to think of an action that could stray further from the the above quoted purposes of the Cape Cod National Seashore than the premature intentional destruction of the Seashore's 5 North Beach Island camps. Those that agree should let their voices be heard.
Bob Long <capernl@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 12/21/2011 - 16:49:03
Woke up this morning (that is an achievement at my age) and immediately thought of Tom Sparkes. "The sun that brief December day rose cheerless over hills of grey and darkly circled gave at noon a sadder light than waning moon." Little did I know as I struggled to memorize "Snowbound" that I would fondly think about it 65 +/- years later. Happy holidays and great memories to all.
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Wed 12/21/2011 - 09:55:27
Thank you Richard G.R. I was beginning to think this place was broke. And I want to wish everyone a very Happy Holidays!
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Tue 12/20/2011 - 20:05:39
In the absence of any recent postings, let me say that I wish all of you a fine Holiday Season. Actually, I really mean have a Merry Christmas, and best wishes for the New Year!
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 12/20/2011 - 19:39:18
Well, John H., any progress?
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Sat 12/17/2011 - 11:39:25
Wait a minute....the Rick Smith I know can spell and write a better sentence. Good for you John, to try to get rid of these interlopers.
Emily
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Wed 12/14/2011 - 20:01:53
Thanks Dan, can,t wait to go.
Rick smith
chatham, MA USA - Wed 12/14/2011 - 13:49:51
Art Hilbert aka Rick S aka Ted Nick aka Barry Mullen (and maybe other aliases?): You recent behavior here is NOT going to be tolerated in the present form as you've violated numerous rules and are showing up on my spam logs WAY too often, ok? I'm not sure who you really are but you've got one and only one chance to contact me via email within the next 24 hrs and explain why I shouldn't attempt to prevent you from posting here in the future.
J Hallgren (as Moderator)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 12/13/2011 - 18:19:46
Rick S.....there is such a place it is called the COA Council On Aging. They willeven pickyou up in their bus and feed you lunch for two bucks!
dan <danchatham@verizon.net>
USA - Tue 12/13/2011 - 16:51:54
When I was there a year ago i noticed the prices were high also and I'm surprised they don't have parking meters yet. But it was nice to visit though the traffic was even worse.
barry mullen
elpaso, TX USA - Tue 12/13/2011 - 14:42:50
Hi Kathy, Thanks for the ride to the 1971 class reunion last summer, had a good time.
Art Hilbert
chatham, MA USA - Tue 12/13/2011 - 10:07:32
Hi Kathy, Thanks for the ride to the 1971 class reunion last summer, had a good time.
Art Hilbert
chatham, MA USA - Tue 12/13/2011 - 10:06:42
Tell me about it, I went to have breakfast at larrys, It cost me twenty three dollars without the tip.
Ted Nick
chatham, MA USA - Tue 12/13/2011 - 10:05:30
Tell me about it, I went to have breakfast at larrys, It cost me twenty three dollars without the tip.
Resident
chatham, MA USA - Tue 12/13/2011 - 10:05:07
Other than walking the beach and trails,fishing and boating theirs not much to do in chatham especially in the winter time. their should be a center for adults where their are pool tables, ping pong and card tables etc. A place that serves coffee and tea and soup. To meet anyone from the past you have to go to the bars or stores or the dump. It would be nice to sit down and have a conversation without it costing you fifty dollars. The dropin center was like that that when it first opened. With all the money this town has it should have a place where we could go an read the paper and talk to others who happened to come by. Hanging out at job lot or the coffee shops only works for a while. Maybe chatham will only be a tourist town like it has been but the locals should have a place to go especially when its cold out but then if you have a laptop and all the new gadgets to keep you busy you might be happy afterall. but all of us can't afford laptops and such. The middleclass are slowly being driven out. The diehards hang on and complain about whatever their is to complain about and so it goes.
Rick S.
chatham, MA USA - Tue 12/13/2011 - 09:49:03
Wayne, Tommy Nick and Tommy Matteson were cousins indeed but perhaps distant as the Nickerson's go. If my geneolgy mind is working correctly, Carroll Nickerson (Tommy Nick's great grandfather?)and brother Edwin Albert Nickerson (Tommy Matteson's great grandfather) were brothers and the sons of Warren Jensen Nickerson. (Maybe that is not so distant afterall...:)
Kathy Nowak
Sebastian, FL USA - Tue 12/13/2011 - 09:37:03
Dick has all the tents you need. Plus it would add a little excitement to these winter days.
tom t.
chatham, MA USA - Tue 12/13/2011 - 09:17:05
Maybe we could get some of the Occupy people to occupy the Superintendant's office or his home.
Richard W
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 12/13/2011 - 07:56:37
From the Cape Cod National Seashore Advisory Commission handbook:

"Although the individuals derive from a particular jurisdiction, they are U.S. Advisory
Commissioners in their own right, not simply spokesmen for their communities. These members serve to advise the Secretary (as a practical matter, the Superintendent) on matters affecting the seashore, and function as a liaison between park administrators and citizens. As one of the earliest national park advisory bodies in the nation, and among the first to serve a park unit acquired with appropriate funds, the Cape Cod National Seashore Advisory
Commission has been a pioneer since its inception. It is renowned for its forthright and independent nature. Since 1961, it has managed to work cooperatively with agency administrators in an atmosphere of cooperation and mutual trust, yet speak its mind upon occasion as "the last voice of the people." It has done so in an area where human-park interactions are as important as natural processes."

By "his own" I was simply referencing the fact that their purpose is to advise him, as outlined in the previous quote from the handbook. I agree that most of the time they support the Superintendent. That's what's so frustrating about this situation. It's the first time in the 21 years that Chatham's current representative has served on the Commission that a superintendent has gone against the unanimous recommendations of the Commission. As a side note, I was nominated as Chatham's alternate representative to the Commission by the Board of Selectmen well over a year ago but asked them to withdraw my nomination in August when Mr. Price announced his decision regarding the North Beach camps with no prior discussions with the Advisory Commission, permit holders, or town officials. I have no interest in advising a Superintendent who conducts himself in that manner.
Bob Long <capernl@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 12/10/2011 - 23:26:36
Bob Long:
You may want to restate the comment that you made regarding Superintendent Price and " his own Advisory Commission". The Advisory Commission is not "his own". They are representatives from the various towns affected by, and contiguous to, the Cape Cod National Seashore. They are only advisors. They are capable of either supporting, remaining non-committal, or contradicting the Superintendent, depending on the question. Joshua Nickerson and Dave Ryder were former members, and I think they were capable of speaking their minds and were not beholden to the Superintendent they might have been advising at the time. I would suspect that most of the time the Advisory Commission would support the Superintendent as a matter of course.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Sat 12/10/2011 - 21:36:29
In all of the talk about Tommy Nick. and Tommy Mattison and Vietnam nobody mentioned that they were cousins and were close. And yes Richard it did hurt to come back to the attitude at the time. I think over time we overcame it.
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Sat 12/10/2011 - 19:51:40
I spent nearly a year in South Vietnam as an Advisor to the South Vietnamese at a Provincial Hospital in a fishing village in the Delta, which treated civilians as well as RVN military.. I met a lot of really good Vietnamese people. However, the total picture is that it (the outcome) was never going to be what the US military wanted. (Can you read Afghanistan here?)
It did hurt to come back to the US in 1971 and be treated either indifferently, or with contempt. The college kids back then had it right.
I too, lost some friends.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Sat 12/10/2011 - 18:21:31
The bird issue has come up. They know they have to get the job done prior to nesting season or they'll have to wait until after September. Our fear is that the camps will sit vacant while NPS goes through the permitting/contracting process and potentially right through next season. Unfortunately for us lowly humans, the bird lovers would rather see the camps removed because it would create more habitat and reduce the number of hiding spots for predators, especially skunks and fox.
Bob Long <capernl@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 12/09/2011 - 18:40:03
Bob, thanks for doing a great job on the north Beach matter, The one thing that I have not read about, are the PLOVERS; These are protected by both the State and Federal agencies; Last I knew the area of concern was and most likely a high nesting area;Back years ago If you remember we were stopped from plantng pallets and xmas trees in the area as it was a prime nesting area; This might be worth while looking into The national park service has to protect the nesting areas like everyone else
Good luck
keep up the good work

wayne
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Fri 12/09/2011 - 11:11:22
Here's a stupid idea (then again maybe not). Try to contact President Obama and see if he'll invoke the Antiquities Act of 1906. The Act gives the President of the United States authority to, by executive order, restrict the use of particular public land owned by the federal government.

Chatham is, after all, going to be 300 years old next year.
Roger
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 12/09/2011 - 09:09:01
Emily, the special occupancy permits expire at the end of the year so the actual eviction date is 12/31. There was a typo in the Times article. By making the decision to not renew the permits and destroy the structures, Mr. Price is going against the unanimous recommendation of his own Advisory Commission, and local, state, and national officials not to mention the wishes of the local community, including the North Beach Island residents. It's simply not time yet. Yes, the island is eroding in some areas but it is building in others. There is now twice as much beach in front of the most vulnerable camp as there was when the decision was originally made in August; more than when the permits were issued last year. The camps generate $40K in revenue (permit fees) for the National Park Service each year and would continue to do so as they are not in imminent danger. Also, bringing heavy equipment into the interior of the island to remove the camps will cause irreparable damage to the sensitive, stabilizing vegetation - possibly jeopardizing the 6 remaining privately owned camps. This decision is fiscally, environmentally, and culturally irresponsible. Any of you who feel the same are encouraged to send letters to local, state, and federal elected officials expressing your concerns. Time is running out but there may still be ways to allow these structures to remain in use on the beach until they truly are in jeopardy.
Bob Long <capernl@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 12/09/2011 - 07:26:15
I was very saddened to learn of the order to vacate the North Beach cottages by Dec.21st. Doesn't the powers that be have ANY sensitivity to the season, the weather, the history?
Emily
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Thu 12/08/2011 - 19:18:32
Twenty years ago I took a picture of Tom Nickersons name on the wall in Washington D.C and gave to his father Kenny, My brother lived there then.Saw the honor Guard and the sites.
Art Hilbert
Boston, MA USA - Thu 12/08/2011 - 14:21:03
This was a memorable trip to the Traveling Vietnam Wall. We found my brothers name and then went to where Tom Nickerson's name was. A fellow(Ken Eising)was kneeling down in front of us looking for certain names and he asked us who we were looking for. We told him Tom Nickerson, and he started to tear up and told us he knew Tom and after learning where we were from, he also knew Tommy Matteson. Ken told us that Tommy Nickerson got sent out on guard duty to guard Vietnamese fellows that were cutting wood for the troops, because they were apt to be a target for the Viet Cong. This is when he got killed, along with another fellow that went with him. Ken was there at that time. They were all stationed at the Dau Tieng base camp. There was another fellow, Bill Comeau from New Bedford that was with them and is now president of the Alpha Assoc.
Sylvia and Barry <barsyl4041@netzero.net>
Naples, FL USA - Wed 12/07/2011 - 19:57:28
Tommy Nickerson and I worked together for John Rodericks back in the fifties. John was a great boss and a great man. If I recall correctly when Tommy was in Viet Nam he went for a ride to the dump for something to do and asked one of the Matteson boys to go with him and he declined and that was when Tommy got shot and killed. I talked with his father, Ken, shortly thereafter and asked him to come in and speak to my high school English class in Harwich. He did. He showed them Tommy's medals and citation etc. It wasn't until Ken died and I read his obituary that I learned that Ken had been a paratrooper in WW II and was a POW.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 12/06/2011 - 19:58:24
Tommy Nickerson is buried in Evergreen Cemetery in East Harwich- way in the back. And Arthur Allison is in Peoples Cemetery. Both are flat stones.
Cynthia Moore <cynthiamoore120@yahoo.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Mon 12/05/2011 - 08:23:52
I too knew Tommy Nick. and Arthur Allison and I too served in Vietnam. Many people know that Tommy has a ball field named after him off Sam Ryder Rd. but most people don't know that if they are on foot near the west end of Cross St. they can stop at the island there and pay their respects to Arthur at the memorial there. He earned it!
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Sun 12/04/2011 - 17:40:27
Don, the mobile Vietnam Veterans Wall is going to be on Marco Island this coming Tues. through Sat., and since Arthur Allison was my brother, and we knew Tommy Nickerson, we're going to go over and see it.
Sylvia <barsyl4041@netzero.net>
Naples, FL USA - Sat 12/03/2011 - 20:21:15
Open the following to see names and details of those who died in the Vietnam War,
including two from Chatham--

http://www.virtualwall.org/istate/istatma.htm
Don Edge
Cherry Hill, NJ USA - Sat 12/03/2011 - 13:26:49
That was a very good point you made in your letter to the editor yesterday Mr. Ryder
Tony Murphy <redcat23@verizon.net>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 12/02/2011 - 17:08:28
Was in an Oregon restaurant last month in Depoe Bay (supposedly the world's smallest harbor). On the wall was a photo of the CG36500.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 12/01/2011 - 12:02:40
Sorry John. Don't know why that happened.
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 12/01/2011 - 05:05:14
Went to a flea market in Naples some years back. Met a couple who then lived in Chatham and wintered here. Asked where they lived in Chatham? Harbor Coves. What Street? Middle Road. The house number? 85. We built that house in 1961 and they were the third owners.
Anna
USA - Wed 11/30/2011 - 22:25:30
We were in New Bern, N.C. 2 years ago in a restaurant that in the foyer on the wall was a photo of Cassie Abreau's son-in-law Mark Farnum's boat in the fog...
Barry and Sylvia <barsyl4041@netzero.net>
Naples, FL USA - Wed 11/30/2011 - 20:27:21
Went to flea market past summer, couple hundred miles from Chatham. Dealer had some scrap books. Opened one and there's a picture of the Wee John. Never know what you'll find where.
Anders
USA - Wed 11/30/2011 - 17:20:46
i mean the town common and not the other.
art hilbert
boston, MA USA - Wed 11/30/2011 - 13:42:55
got ya covered john. keep the memories on the chat line and not the town common.
art hilbert
boston, MA USA - Wed 11/30/2011 - 13:40:23
Ok folks...recently, for some unexplained reason, there have been a fair number of people who have posted comments in the WRONG place here! There are TWO sub-forums (Town Common and Site Related) and the only comments that belong in SITE RELATED side are those dealing with this website or the Internet...I've updated the warnings on that "Add" page to try and get your attention so PLEASE make sure you're in the correct place!

Here's some of the people who've misplaced posts since 9/15/11: Nancy Petrus, Chris Davis, Arty Hilbert, Greg Kane, Dan Meservey, Scot Eldredge, Chucky L, John Custodie and Jackie Obrian.

It will take some manual editing effort for me to properly move those posts into here as there isn't any automated way...in addition, by putting posts there, the chances that others will see them is greatly reduced...so help yourself and me by avoiding posting to Site Related unless applicable...THANKS!
J Hallgren (as Moderator)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 11/30/2011 - 10:49:11
I remember once charlie tuttle brought me down to the chatham fish pier and he caught a bucket of chubs,brought them home and put them in a blender and made hamburger patties out of them and that was the first time I had chinese hamburger, little ketchup salt and peppa, ummmmm tasty.....
art hilbert
boston, MA USA - Wed 11/30/2011 - 09:43:13
That same cold period when Chatham Harbor froze solid, Tom Tripp and David Baker walked across from Cotchpinicuit to Backlash camp. After they arrived they found they had fogot to bring the Goose Pond Steak they had planned to have for dinner. Now getting dark and snowing, David walked back to the landing, retreived the steak was able to follow his tracks back to the camp in pitch black and snowing heavily.
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 11/30/2011 - 07:15:47
I think it was 1976. I was fishing that winter and we froze up right after Christmas and did not get out of the harbor for 67 days. Many peoples pipes froze in the ground. Welders made a lot of money thawing out pipes that winter. I had had a good year so we got by. Don't want to do that again!
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Tue 11/29/2011 - 19:41:53
Barry, I remember the year it was so cold, the TRP went for walk from the Harding beach second lot, I think headed south, went to the fairway bouy and came pack, at one time I had some picture, where I dont know
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Tue 11/29/2011 - 18:20:15
Got an email from Gloria Freeman late Monday eve...sharing it here for others:

"John - I am very sorry to have to give you some bad news. Our friend Toddy died today and I know she would want you to know. Arrangements have not been finalized, but the family is gathering and they are tentatively planning a memorial service on Friday and funeral Mass on Saturday.

Toddy had tremendous strength and spirit, and she will be missed by so many of us."
I definitely agree that she'll be missed, esp by folks here in So. Chatham.
J Hallgren (as user/Moderator)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 11/29/2011 - 02:48:44
It is SNOWING in Memphis, TN tonight, and temp in Boston is (was) 67 today!
I think Jack Frost has lost his way!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Mon 11/28/2011 - 21:07:12
Richard, we remember back in the 60's the ice stacked up 15 ft. or more on Hardings Beach.
Barry <barsyl4041@netzero.net>
Naples, FL USA - Mon 11/28/2011 - 21:04:06
OK, here we are almost in to December. No serious cold spell yet. Remember a few years ago on December 9th, when after a spell of similar not cold weather, the wind and cold air struck in with a vengeance in Eastham, Orleans and Brewster? It blew 86 mph here, and 108 just north of us. Many many trees were down, and the Nauset Beach parking lot was conscripted to accommodate all the downed stuff that people in Orleans had to deal with.
Years ago maybe in the early 50's, just before Christmas, Dad would be spearing eels through thick salt water ice in Ryder's Cove and selling eels to the A&P in Chatham as well as to fish dealers off Cape.
When was the last time there was walkable sea ice in Ryder's Cove? Can you believe that the CG36500 was used to break up ice in front of the Fish Pier and around the moorings back then?
There ARE climate changes happening.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 11/28/2011 - 20:33:45
I do. Noticed it yesterday.
Pauline Clark
So. Chatham, MA USA - Mon 11/28/2011 - 18:40:02
Does anyone else besides me have forsythia blooming? Strange.
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 11/28/2011 - 17:43:18
I know this is a long shot, but our kids who pre-registered and brought their food pantry donations up from Maryland for this year's Turkey Trot were really, really sorry they didn't get one of the t-shirts. If anyone happens to have one or two (size x-large) that they wouldn't want now the race is over, I would love to hear from you. Please let me know how to get in touch - thanks ever so much!
Jennifer
USA - Sun 11/27/2011 - 23:53:00
Sad to hear that Harold Nickerson passed away Friday from a car accident in Washington. Our condolences to his extended Nickerson family. Dana and Valerie have lost both their parents within 6 months...sympathy goes out to them both.
Kathy Nowak
Sebastian, FL USA - Sun 11/27/2011 - 14:38:28
Bill N re: Chrocle freezing.
I do not subscribe but problems should be reported to this email
twood@capecodchronicle.com
good luck
Cynthia Moore <cynthiamoore120@yahoo.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Sat 11/26/2011 - 08:37:20
Is anybody else having problems with the Chronicles e-edition? Pages won't load, and the site seems to freeze up. This has been going on the past 2 weeks.
Bill N.
MO USA - Fri 11/25/2011 - 11:14:34
I wish to add my Happy Thanksgiving wishes to all, and especially to our military who serve to keep us free and able to celebrate as we do.
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 11/24/2011 - 20:03:25
Happy Thanksgiving to all from sunny, warm, California desert! Not cooking this year but so happy to be well, happy and able to wish everyone the same.
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 11/24/2011 - 14:58:06
I`ll drink to that....Frigid, Dark, Happy Thanksgiving to all--from the Reddish boys up here in Alaska!
bruce
eagle river, alaska, USA - Thu 11/24/2011 - 11:11:15
I am with you Irene, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 11/24/2011 - 03:33:46
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.
Irene God Bless America
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 11/23/2011 - 22:21:05
Yes, I received a ridiculously high bill and called the water dept. - they re-read the meter and admitted that they had "read it incorrectly the first time".
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 11/22/2011 - 10:08:59
Did anyone else notice an abnormally high water bill this last time? Ours worked out to 1,000 gallons a day for three months, and we are filing for an abatement. I understand that the water department admitted to at least one resident that the scanners they use to read the meters were not working correctly.
Richard W
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 11/22/2011 - 08:06:59
I seem to remember Sgt Grant playing Santa.
Matt <southchatham@hotmail.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Mon 11/21/2011 - 20:03:12
Sonny Walker also played Santa and flew himself into Chatham Airport where he would meet the kids.
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 11/21/2011 - 12:42:39
Yes, Santa used to arrive by plane. He'd circle over the Bandstand where us hungry kids were waiting, then land at the airport and be driven to the Bandstand. We got some LifeSavers, an apple, and an orange in a nice white paper bag. (Thinking back on it, he probably was never in the plane at all.)
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 11/21/2011 - 09:41:42
Santa was flown in one year by the Coast Guard helicopter.
Irene God Bless America
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 11/21/2011 - 09:20:54
@Richard Ryder. Didn't arrive by plane at one time in Chatham?
Cynthia Moore <cynthiamoore120@yahoo.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Mon 11/21/2011 - 09:02:18
Last year, due to the absence of the two 42 footers at the Fish Pier, the venerable 65 year old CG36500 was able to retrieve Santa from Chatham Bar and deliver him to the Fish Pier, to the delight of many. Will the Chatham Coast Guard Station be tasked with the Santa delivery this year? I see that Santa is scheduled to be arriving at a date in early December. The CG36500 is moored for the winter at Meetinghouse Pond in Orleans and is totally available for the Santa mission. But, I think it only fitting that the new OIC of Coast Guard Station Chatham, BMC Watson, be given the honor of delivering Santa this year!
R.G. Ryder, Operations Manager & Coxswain, Motor Lifeboat CG36500
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 11/20/2011 - 20:00:34
I think the new Village Market/CVS complex looks wonderful- a huge improvement. With 2012 fast approaching, I look forward to a fabulous Tercentennial celebration, a successful Orpheum Theater fundraising, and construction of a long awaited new fire station.
Debbie
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 11/20/2011 - 10:09:19
Anders' I do not know who you are, but if you wish to drag dirty laundry, I will be glad to talk one on one; E-Mail of in person; lovenest139@comcast; By saying it nothing serious, gets me a little upset. YOU do not know the half of it;
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Fri 11/18/2011 - 17:19:46
Wayne L: I appreciate what you're saying, but please don't take it too seriously. Was 40 years ago, a minor but now comical event. Most people involved have died. No big deal, but still a morsel of Chatham history just like so many others, only slightly less ancient. Sorry if you were offended.


For example, years ago, say in the 50s or 60s, some crimes that are now a big deal were regarded as family/domestic crimes or small time stuff. Some violators were allowed to go into military instead of getting a record. Nowadays same crime is very big deal. Times change, that's all.
Anders
USA - Fri 11/18/2011 - 11:58:39
I agree with you whole heartedly Jane.
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 11/18/2011 - 04:13:56
Maybe some of you misunderstood what I meant by being "in favor" of what John wrote in the CCC. - I guess I should clarify what I meant - I am in complete agreement with what he suggests - keeping the third lane here in W.C., and not making this stretch into a "quaint little village" that the W.C. visualization hopefuls have in mind!!PLEASE LISTEN TO THE NATIVES!!!!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 11/17/2011 - 21:30:57
The town can't buy property without town meeting approval.
Tony Murphy <redcat23@verizon.net>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 11/17/2011 - 17:10:12
Has the town bought the Meservey Pit Stop Restaurant in South Chatham? I heard a rumor that the property was going to be used for conservation land and I noticed a sale pending sign this morning.
Bert
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 11/17/2011 - 15:25:57
Hope all of you read John Stevenson's letter to the editor in this week's CCC. If you agree with this maybe you could post something in favor.
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 11/16/2011 - 21:39:26
Matt;

You have the right answer to a problem that does not exist!
George Goodspeed Jr
USA - Wed 11/16/2011 - 09:30:32
Matt I agree with Jane! Good idea!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 11/16/2011 - 03:43:38
Matt - best idea yet!!!! What you say is all true!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 11/15/2011 - 17:34:21
I have an idea about West Chatham. Why doesn't everyone just go home and leave it the way it is. It won't cost a dime to do this. I'm 49 years old and grew up in Chatham. To me it looks the same as it always has. The names have changed, Stop and shop is now job lot etc. It's always been a pain to get out onto 28 at 4:pm on a beach day etc. I guess if Chatham isn't spending big money it can't be happy.
Matt <southchatham@hotmail.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Tue 11/15/2011 - 17:15:35
Anders, ref your posting of 11-13, in PM; I donot think this belongs in the Chat-M-room, do you john H ???, Must were go their
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Tue 11/15/2011 - 09:46:44
Stepping Stones radar site - I think in 1954-1955 there were five air force members who worked at that site. They all lived in the brick house next door to the Cumberland Farms. Two of them took Bob Franke's geometry course. Perhaps they were learning to plot interception angles for those incoming VR7pantybombs.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 11/15/2011 - 05:48:15
History question; Village of Chatham, Town of Chatham; Where was the Edwards and Loveland Lumber Yard; and the second part the office and drug store of Dr BD Giffort ( ? om spelling of last name )
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Sun 11/13/2011 - 19:23:01
DCG is correct. Not sure why call sign reversed, but that was his plate. Can still recall it on his Ford wagon.


Anyone remember when TC picked up a little hamburger helper from the Captain's Table a little after midnight one night (early 70s)? Terminated the next day, but Bob and Ruth were never told about it.
Anders
USA - Sun 11/13/2011 - 19:04:51
The radar site was off Stepping Stones - a little path going off to the right which couldn't be seen from the road. Jennifer, you are right, there was a book written about this "secret" place fairly recently. The barracks were in a separate place from here - they were at the top of Great Hill,where the water tower is now.
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Sun 11/13/2011 - 16:35:30
Those barracks on Great Hill were the first homes to many newly married Chathamites....many returning GI's....along with the Beverly's Bounty complex on Snow Lane. From my mom's account they were far from 'nice' but they were serviceable and cheap. Somewhere I have a picture of my mom sitting on a porch railing outside their unit.
dan <danchatham@verizon.net>
USA - Sun 11/13/2011 - 15:29:34
I have 4 airviews of the radar installations. Send me your email and I will forward to you.
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 11/13/2011 - 14:17:52
Wayne,
Am curious about the reference to On Stepping Stones. Think I recall a fiction book I read a few years involving a possible secret site somewhere in Chatham with a similar name. Had forgotten about it until now - maybe that story was related to the Great Hills site? Thanks for all the information everyone has had - it's really interesting!
Jennifer
USA - Sun 11/13/2011 - 12:54:55
Ref the old Radar site;The barracks property was bought by the budis family,Frank and others lived up on the hill for a while; The barracks later taken down and house lots were sold; On Steppings Stones, the town owned the building where equipment was kept;Harbor master storage, then cleaned out by town and I beleave some of the land went to the cemetery comm;
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Sun 11/13/2011 - 11:37:25
I realize that this has nothing to do with Chatham but since we're all reminiscing about the good old days I thought it interesting to note that on November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence; that request came from his wife. :-)
Bill
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 11/13/2011 - 09:00:02
Re: the radar. There were still some old barracks up there in the 60's that a lot of summer help used to rent.k They were nicnamed "the Pits", I believe, and were a popular party spot most nights.
Richard W
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 11/13/2011 - 07:52:05
Jennifer...Not to my knowledge, however, the radar was in place doing the early 40's and it was located on top of Great Hill near the one water tower at that time...
Gordon <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 11/13/2011 - 07:01:19
Gordon,
Is there any place today to get information about the "secret radar installation on Great Hill" - location, dates in use, etc?
Jennifer
USA - Sat 11/12/2011 - 15:03:31
To all of you that said thank you to a Vet today, "You are welcome"
Wayne D. Gould Sgt. E5 U.S.A. Combat Engineers, USARV
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Fri 11/11/2011 - 22:36:10
I beleave DCGrant had 271-368, I dont remember any 368KCA, anyways it would have be backwards, the call sign was KCA-368
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Fri 11/11/2011 - 15:04:56
368 KCA sounds like Dave Grant.
Crayton Nickerson, Jr
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 11/11/2011 - 14:13:38
Regarding secret war stories..My father was the electrical engineer for the secret radar installation on Great Hill...
Gordon <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 11/11/2011 - 10:48:36
Yes, Happy Veteran's Day to all. And, let's not forget to wish all the Marines out there a happy belated 236 birthday (11/10/11).
Bob
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 11/11/2011 - 09:02:22
Thank you to all the veterans out there....past and present!!
Kathy Nowak
Sebastian, FL USA - Fri 11/11/2011 - 08:30:05
Who can remember whose plate was 368 KCA? And whose was 373 KCA?
Anders
USA - Thu 11/10/2011 - 20:41:54
Thanks Bob; I shall watch with interest.
73's de T.
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 11/10/2011 - 20:37:22
Nice touch for Veterans Day. So many people in this country did some pretty remarkable things back then.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 11/10/2011 - 17:23:00
For those interested in such matters, tomorrow evening, Nov. 11 at 7:30PM, Boston TV channel 5's CHRONICLE will air a segment regarding Chatham's secret radio snooping during WW2 from the shores of Ryder's Cove by the U S Navy. Many folks are surprised to learn of the importance of the anti-submarine warfare efforts choreographed from the brick building in behind the "Osprey Tower" at 847 Orleans Road.
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Thu 11/10/2011 - 16:24:34
probably, unless their very shy.
arty hilbert
boston, MA USA - Thu 11/10/2011 - 10:22:44
Has the Room gone into hibernation for the winter?
Richard W
USA - Thu 11/10/2011 - 07:40:41
Just read the article in the recent chronicle about police detours. When sewers were added in Arlington we were faced with road closed signs everywhere. No cops and no signs telling us where the alternate ways to get from place to place were. The roads were closed and that was it. They came to the door before six o'clock and told us if we wanted to get out of our driveway to do it then or be stuck all day. It was terrible if you got stuck and we did a few times. We were in Chatham a week ago for two days, live off Main St and were shocked at how different the project was. Signs, cops who knew alternatives, what a difference! Better than a simple "sorry the road is closed."
Stephen Musante
Arlington/Chatham, MA USA - Mon 11/07/2011 - 11:44:38
To Richard R.

Ed Long was in the Coast Guard at Old Harbor in the 1930s. I think maybe you know that I can provide details.

Regards Unc Bill
William Ryder
Chathamport, MA USA - Mon 11/07/2011 - 11:28:14
Jane is correct! John Long was father to Ginny Bettendorf,Married to Bill Bettendorf.John had a drooped left eye(Always blood shot)& drooped mouth and he did not object to drinking Burke & Barry Whiskey with a tad of ice.He had a stroke circa 1960-61 which left him in that condition.He was always a gentleman and always had a kind word for everyone. He and Jimmy Christmas were drinking buddies at the Wayside Inn. Albeit, a short distance, I drove him home in the police cruiser more than once. He is buried in Seaside cemetary alongside his wife and daughter.Truly one of the Chatham Greats!!
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 11/06/2011 - 20:43:05
Seems to me I remember Ray Murphy was a stepbrother to Paul Long and related somehow to John Long. When we were kids living on Cross St. He would throw coins out of the upstairs window of his house on Kent Place and we would scramble to pick them up. He did this quite often.
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 11/06/2011 - 16:57:38
Richard, I remember this man John Long; I beleave he painted for Ray Murphy for a while, Ray lives on Heritage Lane in Chatham. I beleave he spent alot of his time at the old New Yorker, liked the horses and dogs, if i recall correctly
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Sun 11/06/2011 - 14:35:57
Richard, Yes, I knew a John Long who lived on Kent Place and was a painter...his daughter was Ginny Bettendorf. I don't know, however, who his father was.
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Sun 11/06/2011 - 10:25:55
I can't swear to it, but it seems to me there was a Long family that lived on Old Wharf Road in North Chatham. That would have been in the '40's.
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Sun 11/06/2011 - 10:04:45
Anyone on this Room ever know of a John Long, a house painter I'm told, who used to live next door to the Bladens on Kent Place? Was has father in the LifeSaving Service? Was he in the Coast Guard?
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 11/06/2011 - 09:41:58
John, we were told the new tax rate was $4.45, up 17 cents from last year which is an increase of under 4%. 17 cents divided by $4.28.
john whelan <sockpirate@comcast.net>
chatham, MA USA - Sat 11/05/2011 - 13:01:40
If you're interested in the new fire station project, then be sure to attend the workshop meeting tomorrow from 9am-12pm in annex with all parties involved!

Also, just got notified that my Chatham R/E tax bills are ready for payment online...looked at amounts...it's 8.1% higher than last year so guess some of that wastewater project is starting to kick in.
J Hallgren (as user)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 11/04/2011 - 17:27:47
right on Helen, proper can be so boring.
arty hilbert
boston, MA USA - Thu 11/03/2011 - 09:54:35
Why has there been a barrier at the Job Lot intersection for the past 2 days and manned by 2 officers? Cars can get to downtown area from there via Old Main street.
Dave
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 11/03/2011 - 08:59:13
It seems to me that several years back we agreed that the spelling and grammar were deemed less important than the communication. I would rather hear from everyone than just the people that are proper all the time.
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Thu 11/03/2011 - 08:35:31
Tim, Wayne, Bruce: My spell check in the "good ol' days" was Sgt. Rod MacDonald with his red pen! It seemed like he circled every other word on my reports. I didn't like it at the time, but I learned at lot about paying attention to detail. Now I do the same thing, but without the red pen! KCA368
John Cauble
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 11/03/2011 - 07:53:08
Maybe somebody on here can help. My good friend called me last night to say that as his Son and Daughter in Law were walking on a beach in Bass River they saw "pink" sea weed. First one for me!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 11/03/2011 - 04:10:48
Robert! My humble apology for misspelling the word(Suppose),the letters Z&S
are so close together,that my fat fingers hit the wrong key! Yes,maybe you might give us all here on the Chatroom a lesson on spelling and further, maybe
a treatise on the growth and development of the english language during the Elizabethan period to date! That's what we all here really need,rather than just having fun and being a network family of good Chatham people. Thank's Richard! You're a gem!
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 11/02/2011 - 21:02:49
Robert! My humble apology for misspelling the word(Suppose),the letters Z&S
are so close together,that my fat fingers hit the wrong key! Yes,maybe you might give us all here on the Chatroom a lesson on spelling and further, maybe
a treatise on the growth and development of the english language during the Elizabethan period to date! That's what we all here really need,rather than just having fun and being a network family of good Chatham people. Thank's Richard! You're a gem!
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 11/02/2011 - 20:54:37
Robert! My humble apology for misspelling the word(Suppose),the letters Z&S
are so close together,that my fat fingers hit the wrong key! Yes,maybe you might give us all here on the Chatroom a lesson on spelling and further, maybe
a treatise on the growth and development of the english language during the Elizabethan period to date! That's what we all here really need,rather than just having fun and being a network family of good Chatham people. Thank, Richard! You're a gem!
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 11/02/2011 - 20:53:18
There is two ways of spelling and grammar; the United States way and then there is the good old Cape cod way !!!
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Wed 11/02/2011 - 10:40:15
Ya Tim P, Old Red and John tought you very well, and 5 By always had the wagon!!
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Wed 11/02/2011 - 10:37:39
Did they have spelling and grammar in those "good ole days"?
Robert
USA - Tue 11/01/2011 - 22:20:23
Dudes, try skinny dipping in the waves off North Beach! Now THAT was an experience!
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Tue 11/01/2011 - 20:39:01
Yeah,Right!I suppoze you were looking for scallops in the Goose Pond!
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 11/01/2011 - 20:38:17
When I was a cop and patrolling the Goose Pond, I promise I never looked at what the spot light revealed......I promise!!!!
bruce
eagle river, alaska, USA - Tue 11/01/2011 - 19:40:17
Ah yes!!!Skinny dipping. When Steve and I lived at Indian Hill a few of us middle agers would some times go skinny dipping in School House Pond.I never will hear a Bull Frog croak , but what I will remember that. My early teenaged boys were shocked vwhen they heard about it. I wonder how long it took them to find out what great fun it is.
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Mon 10/31/2011 - 16:03:00
back in my day they used to follow us home if we had to much to drink and sometimes make sure we made in the house before leaving. playing cat and mouse was intertainment in the wintertime hiding on the golfcourse or driving inside petits triangle off old queen ann rd and training field. hang out at bills kitchen in south chatham after midnight. the late sixtys were fun like when we would go skinny dipping at goosepond after the squire closed and john brooks would shine his spotlight at us and the girls and us have swim to the other side so he couldn't see us, yea good the good ole days.
arty hilbert
boston, MA USA - Mon 10/31/2011 - 10:30:12
Back in my day, there were a grand total of two cruisers. If you saw both of them pass you in the other direction on Rt 28, you could drive as fast as you wanted without a worry of getting caught!
Allen R. Boyce
West Hartford, CT USA - Fri 10/28/2011 - 12:22:46
thats the beauty of it chris
arty hilbert
boston, MA USA - Fri 10/28/2011 - 11:47:47
It is really none of my business since I moved away in 1972 and none of my tax dollars are involved, BUT I was in Chatham in August and happened to drive by the new Police Palace. I did a double take when I saw all those cruisers sitting out there. Couldn't believe it! Consequently I agree with Artie and Chris comments.
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Fri 10/28/2011 - 08:45:41
Forgot why I was writing got off on the damn Firestation.What I want to know is .How many Police cruisers do we have?Each day due to the 'Detour" I drive by our new station. Each time I do there are 4 to 6 cruisers parked on the south side of the station" Where I am not allowed to drive ? because I am not driving "one"What is with that "WE" own the station and we are not allowed to drive in and look around?What kind of "BULL' is floating around this Harbah?Do we really have enough cruisers that we can have that many sitting around?
Arty i miss your point of view!
chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
south chatham , MA USA - Fri 10/28/2011 - 07:42:36
Hi All , been away for a while, What is going on with that fire station ? Hasn't any'REAL CAPECODDAH" come up with a design rebuilding that whole block into a new fire station that would serve the town well for another fifty years and would cost the town about one quarter as much money!Just look what was done with did the old "EBB TIDE" forty years later and each unit is selling for what the whole sixteen acres sold for with a fiftythree unit motel on it!Now that we have the regional school system lets stop trying to build something to compete with Harwich.
chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
south chatham , MA USA - Fri 10/28/2011 - 07:13:23
Jack: You ran into one part of my spam filters here which require a minimum nbr of characters for a posting as we were getting some posts with just one or two words that were being used to post a spam email addr...if it says that again, just make a short sentence as you did and it'll be fine.
J Hallgren (as Moderator)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 10/27/2011 - 14:26:02
life is like licking honey from a thorn
arty hilbert
boston, MA USA - Thu 10/27/2011 - 13:46:00
The reason for the question is that when I tried to submit just the two words "Swan Song" the site wouldn't allow it. Two 4 letter words?
Jack
USA - Thu 10/27/2011 - 11:21:40
Why can't I submit swan song?
Jack
USA - Thu 10/27/2011 - 11:18:05
Jim Blank = Jim crow
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 10/27/2011 - 10:13:43
Blank Song
Jim Blank
Bull Blank Looney (Finch)
Red Red (Robin)
Jonathan Livingston (Seagull)
Sing like a (Canary)
Polly the (Parrot)
Red Tail (Hawk)
Not a dog bird but a (Cat Bird)
My friend Flicka (Woodpecker)
If you stay up late maybe you are a night (Owl)
Can you sing like this Blank
You do not have to sing the words but feel free to hum along (Hummingbird)
The Rime of the Ancient Mariner (Albatross)
one flew over the blank's nest(Cuckoo)
Kathy Nowak
Sebastian, FL USA - Thu 10/27/2011 - 08:56:47
Most were done but I took a shot a 2:
blank song
jim blank
bull blank looney
red red robin
jonathan livingston seagull
sing like a canary
polly the parrot
red tail hawk
not a dog bird but a bird dog
my friend flicka - flicker
if you stay up late maybe you are a night hawk
can you sing like this nightengale
you do not have to sing the words but feel free to hum along- hummingbird
the rime of the ancient mariner - albatross
one flew over the cuckoos nest
Melissa
USA - Thu 10/27/2011 - 08:26:10
How's this for a start?

Blank Song
Jim Blank
Bull Blank Looney
Red Red Robin
Jonathan Livingston Seagull
Sing like a Canary
Polly the Parrot
Red Tail Hawk
Not a dog bird but a Bird Dog
My friend Flicka - Flicker
If you stay up late maybe you are a night hawk
Can you sing like this Blank
You do not have to sing the words but feel free to hum along- Hummingbird
The Rime of the Ancient Mariner
one flew over the cuckoos nest
Barry <barsyl4041@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 10/26/2011 - 22:18:44
Richard! Dick Fulcher hit it just right.Bernie & Miriam stayed for the month
of October 1950 in my Dad's house at 72 Main as they were without housing and
had just gotten married during the summer.He and Miriam were always welcome
dinner guests and my mother always enjoyed having them. I still have a petty
officers badge he gave me,which I treasure.I was five or six,that was before he became the hero he was. I remember he once took me to the Port Fortune for
Ice Cream and insisted I have multi-colored jimmies; I got sick and still can't
stand the sight of them to this very day!
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 10/26/2011 - 20:48:14
Richard, the house (which had a quaterboard saying "Silverheels") was on the left side of Sea View St. just up from the triangle park.Counting the square top house it would be the 5th or 6th house.
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 10/26/2011 - 18:18:35
Anyone know where the abode of Bernie Webber called "Silverheels" was, back in the 50's? TimP., you're on.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 10/26/2011 - 17:41:48
This site is for us; this entry is for the birds
Blank Song
Jim Blank
Bull Blank Looney
Red Red Blank
Jonathan Livingston Blank
Sing like a Blank
Polly the Blank
Red Tail Blank
Not a dog bird but a Blank
My friend Flicka
If you stay up late maybe you are a night blank
Can you sing like this Blank
You do not have to sing the words but feel free to hum along
The Rime of the Ancient Mariner
one flew over the blank's nest

In memory and honor of Robert Verity Clem
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 10/26/2011 - 15:38:53
Latest Visit / Bittersweet Observation: While inventory was low on some seasonal items, Ben Franklin remains the wonderfully cluttered jumble of countless things that I remember so well. Sadly, the uniquely friendly smell of newsprint, paperbacks, comic books and dusty plank floors was missing from The Mayflower. The smell that greeted me was one of the pervasive potpourri. Thankfully, I can still "smell" MY Mayflower in my memories.
Melissa
USA - Wed 10/26/2011 - 09:34:18
Melissa - you rock! Finally some life in here, I had stopped checking the room after so many days of nothing or total boredom. Maybe Carl can create an autumn quiz once he gets over reminiscing about "I found my thrill on Blueberry Hill"
ben h
coronado, CA USA - Tue 10/25/2011 - 22:01:46
So, this past weekend I embraced October-esque Chatham. Busy but not crowded. Brisk but not cold. Hot coffee, fresh muffins, Pumpkin People...
It has been a while since I've been able to visit at all and even longer to see a post-Summer Chatham. Yes, my years of beloved memories are Summer focused but I think my all-time favorite time is...now. Made some wonderful new memories with family. So very hard to leave.
Melissa
USA - Tue 10/25/2011 - 08:55:22
You also have a speaking engagement on Tuesday afternoon with the DAR ladies...Don't forget that one Richard.................see you then ! ! !
Carol Kelley
West Chatham, MA USA - Sat 10/22/2011 - 08:20:03
You also have a speaking engagement on Tuesday afternoon with the DAR ladies...Don't forget that one Richard.................see you then ! ! !
arol Kelley
West Chatham, MA USA - Sat 10/22/2011 - 08:19:23
Next Friday, October 28th, the historic motor lifeboat CG36500 will be traversing Pleasant Bay waters with the last remaining member of the Pendleton Rescue crew, Andy Fitzgerald, and two Screen Writers who are doing research for a potential Disney sponsored movie based on the book "The Finest Hours". I expect we'll be down at the "Lights" at some point, probably in the afternoon. Stand by for an update when I know more.
In the meantime, we'll be in P'Town this Sunday, the subject of a BBC 2 film crew doing some shots for their on-going series "Three Men In A Boat". Check out YouTube to see some of their earlier trips in the UK. Millions of Brits do watch such things, I'm told.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Fri 10/21/2011 - 20:34:18
All: I'm just fnishing my 4th Joseph Lincoln book. I've got to say they are great books and have withstood time well. It just goes to show that a good story is a good story whether it's 2011 or 1911. By any chance, do any of the Chat-M-Room members have family members who actually knew Mr. Lincoln? If so, I'd like to hear anything that they knew about him. Thanks in advance.
Ned and Julie Chapman <e.j.chapman@hotmail.com>
Doha, Qatar - Wed 10/19/2011 - 08:21:15
Emily - I believe the new Chatham plates are current;y available at Ben Franklin's and at Chatham Hardware - probably other locations later. Mike Brown is the engine behind the new plate and part of the proceeds will go to the Chatham Town Band and the Chatham A's baseball team. I saw one of his plates on a car yesterday and it looked great.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 10/18/2011 - 13:31:26
Thanks to an "anonymous" generous donor we are proudly sporting the revised new CHATHAM front license plate "1712 -2012"!!!! Same design, new color, dates added....it is FABULOUS and a MUST for all of us old-timers.
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 10/15/2011 - 12:54:50
Folks: 1 out of 5 so far. Yes, I'm told that Jimmy Allison was indeed the Caretaker of Strong Island for 3 separate families; the last being Mr. Victor Horst. By all accounts, JA was a fine man (he must have had some remakeable stories if you think about it). I heard that Mr. VH used to hang out at Eastwood Ho and took his aqua car across Pleasant Bay to and from. That's cool. I guess he was a pretty dashing fellow and quite the dancer to boot. What ever happened to all these classic Cape Cod charaters? Too many Range Rovers today. 4 more questions to go. Who ever gets all 5, gets 2 free drinks on the CBI vernada on a warm summer evening in June 2012 with me and the Mrs. By the way, I missed the "First Car" memories. For the record, I still have my first car and drive in every summer in Chatham (a 1971 Buick convertible). I've owned her for 34 years (and Dad bought her new in 1971). An American classic. Hope that you are all well.
Ned and Julie Chapman <e.j.chapman@hotmail.com>
Doha, Qatar - Thu 10/13/2011 - 10:40:39
Tim, you're right that Jimmy Allison was a caretaker of Strong Island for Bill Potter and then Victor Horst. Back in the 30's Rudy Vallee sp? owned it, and then Arthur Murray and I think there was one other before Bill Potter bought it.
Barry <barsyl4041@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 10/12/2011 - 22:06:49
Ned and Tim - I was thinking the same thing about Jim Allison - but Tim beat me to it! That was a loooong time ago! Didn't know the rest of the story, though (about the shenanigans at E. Ho!!!) That must have been quite funny!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 10/12/2011 - 20:59:35
Ned! Jim Allison,was I think, caretaker for Victor Horst.Potter? Maybe a former
owner, hence.Potter's Landing across from Strong Island.
I knew both Jim Allison and Victor Horst and they were certainly two different
individuals indeed. Jim Allison was one fine man,worked in the last years of his life at the Chatham Fish Pier. Victor Horst owned a number of dance studios
(Arthur Murray)? I once saw Bill Weinz throw a sticky pecan roll across the dining room at Eastward Ho and hit Victor in the head.It stuck in his ever
present Toupee. All much to the laughter of everyone there. Victor was not pleased. I could expound further,but I shant! Trust you,Julie and the kiddos are well and trusting Exxon-Mobil will send you home in the not too distant future.Kind Regards.
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 10/12/2011 - 20:38:28
Ned! Jim Allison,was I think, caretaker for Victor Horst.Potter? Maybe a former
owner, hence.Potter's Landing across from Strong Island.
I knew both Jim Allison and Victor Horst and they were certainly two different
individuals indeed. Jim Allison was one fine man,worked in the last years of his life at the Chatham Fish Pier. Victor Horst owned a number of dance studios
(Arthur Murray)? I once saw Bill Weinz throw a sticky pecan roll across the dining room at Eastward Ho and hit hit Victor in the head.It stuck in his ever
present Toupee. All much to the laughter of everyone there. Victor was not pleased. I could expound further,but I shant! Trust you,Julie and the kiddos are well and trusting Exxon-Mobil will send you home in the not too distant future.Kind Regards.
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 10/12/2011 - 20:35:36
Number three...Popeye?
Chowderman <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 10/12/2011 - 17:41:12
Folks: Here's a quick distraction away from politics with 5 Chatham themed trivia questions. I bet no one gets all 5:
1. Who was the Skipper of the Dora Bassett and what type of craft was she?
2. Where does the term "Ozone Island" come from?
3. Who or what is Strong Island named after?
4. What was the family name (non-American Indian)of the first owner of Strong Island?
5. What do Jimmy Allison; Victor Horst and William Potter all have in common?

Hope that all is well in Chatham. We're all doing well here in Qatar and miss your fair community.
Ned and Julie <e.j.chapman@hotmail.com>
Doha, Qatar - Wed 10/12/2011 - 14:39:17
So, what happens if Chatham votes down the appropriation of monies for a design study of the regionalized school at the town meeting?
Walter
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 10/11/2011 - 07:20:36
I am with you Cynthia, these folks are volunteers who have spent the day at their jobs and are devoting their spare time to the town. And a thankless job it is. Let them do it comfortably.
Tony Murphy <redcat23@verizon.net>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Sat 10/08/2011 - 14:19:02
As far as how the town representatives dress for meetings- I do not care if they are in their underwear- and if it was radio we would never know. I just hope they don't spend a lot of money we do not have, or plan on a study or two for unnecessary projects.
Cynthia Moore <cynthiamoore120@yahoo.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Fri 10/07/2011 - 08:26:29
I was watching a joint session of the Selectmen and Planning Boards on TV this week and noticed that while the Selectmen were dressed in business attire the members of the Planning Board looked like they were going to a ball game. Call me old fashioned but it would be nice to see our representatives dress appropriately when they appear before us in an official capacity.
Alice
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 10/06/2011 - 08:38:06
Robert, it's not your problem...it's Ch 18 that is still having some issues...I noticed same thing (had to set my vol in 50's vs normal 30's on set) and talked to the guys in control room last week...they were going to have vendor in to work on the audio...not sure when.
J Hallgren (as user)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Mon 10/03/2011 - 16:46:25
Is it my TV or has the audio on channel 18 gotten lower since the move to the Annex? I have to jack-up the volume on most broadcasts.
Robert
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 10/03/2011 - 15:05:49
Another angel is watching over us...now dad has another friend to listen to great Jazz together....You will be so missed Janet...love to the family during this sad time...
Joyce Hutchings <jhhutch626@comcast.net>
harwich, MA USA - Mon 10/03/2011 - 12:01:46
We will miss Janet and the"RED BOAT" coming to the "Cut". She was a wonderful lady. God bless.
Tommy Doane <tommydoane@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 10/03/2011 - 09:08:55
Janet was a dear, dear friend and I certainly hope whever she is there is sunshine , a good breeze and a sailboat.
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Mon 10/03/2011 - 08:21:11
It's never easy to lose an old friend. Jan was a true class act. Her ashes will be spread in Nantucket Sound, part of her "Blue Bayou". I'm sure she is "upstairs" dancing with 'ole blue eyes. May she Rest in Peace.
Bill N.
MO USA - Mon 10/03/2011 - 02:14:01
The last of the three daughters of "The Skipper",Janet was
a wonderful lady,she will be missed by many.Condolences to
Ben H.& her entire family.
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 10/02/2011 - 10:00:54
I am so sorry to hear about Janet's death. We have many happy memories of her years with Spaulding and sailing on the Little Dipper.
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 10/02/2011 - 06:57:17
Janet Raymond, one of my favorite people. She will be missed.
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 10/02/2011 - 04:14:05
Janet Raymond....A lovely woman with a zest for life and a quick wit.
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 10/01/2011 - 20:49:37
Tim Raymond reports on FACEBOOK that his mother Janet Raymond has passed on today. Blessed journey, Janet and hugs to her family.
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Sat 10/01/2011 - 13:11:04
My first car was a 1950 Nash Ambassador that I bought from Bill Crowley who worked at the bowling alley. It burned so much oil that I kept a 5 gallon can of drain oil in the trunk. What a great party car that was!
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 10/01/2011 - 07:11:24
My first car wasn't a classic, but it made the Chronicle when a big pine tree fell on it during a Nor'easter. Dick Kelsey took the picture. He must have sent it to the Chronicle. Late 70's. I had to walk to school after that. I still have the photo, Dick kelsey was kind enough to give me a copy.
Matt <southchatham@hotmail.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/30/2011 - 19:07:54
Hi Richard! I think my first car was a 1937 Chevy business coupe with a GMC truck motor that I bought from Richard Buck for $25.00 and a Remington 550A .22 caliber with a 4X Weaver scope. More to follow on this when slack time comes.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 09/28/2011 - 19:47:29
Hi Richard: My first car was a 1951 Ford Executive Coup. I paid Gene Hanson in So. Chatham, MA $75.00 for it in 1960...I wish I had it today! Have a great week.
Matt Hart <mhart2@comcast,net>
Harwich, MA USA - Mon 09/26/2011 - 16:53:50
I was thinking after that last post.....it looks like we want only GM...not the case....a taurus, sable etc would fit the bill too. Before the wheels fall right off her current paper car. thanks
dan eldredge <danchatham@verizon.net>
USA - Mon 09/26/2011 - 11:39:56
Speaking of cars....many of you have your newspaper delivered by my daughter Megan....the sewer project has completely destroyed the 'front end' of her delivery car (an older GM sedan). She needs to find a replacement soon! and would very much like to find another one...small size chevy, buick, pontiac, or olds...they were all the same except for the nameplate...granpa or gramas type car....sitting in the garage unused and unloved. If there is one out there...please let me know....thanks
dan eldredge <danchatham@verizon.net>
USA - Sun 09/25/2011 - 11:10:34
Does anyone remember Jungle River ? ? ? ?
Carol Kelley
USA - Sat 09/24/2011 - 09:30:38
Ben - You're right about Phil Guild's brother - I was driving to CT. to visit my Aunt Edna for my spring vacation, and my parents didn't want me to drive by myself, so my mother knew that Phil's brother used to come down on weekends and would be going back to CT so he drove with me!!! -- That must have been quite the sight - me, driving with the top down and him sitting in the passenger seat with his big Stetson hat on!!!(I probably scared him to death with my driving!)
Well, that was a very memorable hug for me, as well....but sorry about making you drop your drink -That certainly was a wonderful party!
I half-way thought that my son, Jim, was going to make that looooong shot that he had talked about!!
On another note, my friend from TN, MS just phoned me to tell me that she paid $3.239 for a gal. of gas today in Nashville - Sure wish that's what the price is here!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/23/2011 - 20:05:48
Talk about first cars- the car that crested Blueberry Hill and carried me in search of excitement was a 1940 Ford Coupe, purchased in Orleans for $50.00 as I recall. When I went in to the Navy in September of 1959, I sold it to Tack Young for $35. It later died a natural death on Monomoy. I took it to P"Town one summer night in 1959, and it burned a quart of oil. Great car. Probably should have kept it. It was the first of what is now 24 cars I've owned.
Anyone else have recollections of their first Cape Cod wheels?
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Fri 09/23/2011 - 19:53:08
Been to "Blueberry Hill" overlooking Stage Harbor with Judy, it was, but with regrets.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Fri 09/23/2011 - 19:41:11
Just returned from a memorable trip - Carl, Carol, everyone thank you so much for the great party - Jane my clumsy hug was memorable so was meeting the different stars from this room - the ladies were so much prettier than I pictured in my mind - Carl your toast was heartfelt, sure hope they find a way - Jane, I believe I remember you heading out of town in that same convertible with Phil Guild's brother - I stopped by Hardings Beach and Larry's PX on my way home, there was Donal Wormwood washing dishes, he immediately remembered me from 56 years ago - Thomas Wolfe was wrong, you can go back! Carl, I once convinced Susie you could actually see submarine races from just the right spot on Blueberry Hill (as well as the lighthouse as well as Hardings Beach as well as Cockle Cove)
Ben H
Coronado, CA USA - Fri 09/23/2011 - 19:03:04
Dan - ONLY 29,900!! What a steal!!! - I think I paid something like $1500.00 for mine when I bought it in 1954!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, NOW I know where "Blueberry Hill" is - thank you, Bob!!!!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/23/2011 - 18:54:45
Jane...my first car was a '49 Ford coupe. I just googled 1950 ford convertible for sale....found one! black with a black top....only $29,900! ! !
dan eldredge <danchatham@verizon.net>
USA - Fri 09/23/2011 - 18:29:17
Blueberry Hill, aka Wheelwright's landing.
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Fri 09/23/2011 - 16:36:21
Somebody help Jane out with Blueberry Hill - it does exist - I used to take Franny Dunbar there when John Pratt wasn't looking.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/23/2011 - 14:20:00
Carl - LOL!! - Knew you'd come up with something! That "hot rod" was my pride and joy - a 1950 black Ford convertible w/white top, red leather seats - overdrive, greeish-blue dash lights - But - tell me where "Blueberry Hill" is!!!!!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/23/2011 - 12:59:35
Jane - want this action? Remember "I got a hot rod Ford and a two dollar bill, And I know a spot right over the hill, the soda pop and the dancing is free, so if you want a good time then come along with me." How about a variation on that one... You had a hot rod Ford and I have a two dollar bill, I know a spot called Blueberry Hill, the pop may not be soda but the dancing is still free, so if you want a good time then...come...along with me.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/23/2011 - 07:08:44
We need some action here!!!!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 09/22/2011 - 20:59:57
At the Rededication of Old Harbor last Sunday, there were in excess of 250 people there! Gibby Borthwick and Wayne Love were there, and perhaps other Chatham people that I either didn't see or didn't recognize. The station will be open daily from 2-4 in September, and from 2-4 Tuesday ,Thursday and Sunday in October. Check the CCNS schedules. If you are expecting the place to look as it did when Howard Rose owned it , then you'll be disappointed. If you want to see what it looked like as a Life Saving Station in 1900, then you are in for a treat! Of the 28 Stations built in the U.S. to the same design as Old Harbor, NONE of them have been restored to the same level as Old Harbor. In fact, there may be only a third of those stations still standing.
Not to be incendiary, but Isn't it great that Old Harbor was moved from North Beach, back in 1977?
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 09/22/2011 - 20:14:32
Wayne is right, my Sister and I visited last year at a "Breeches Bouy" demonstation. The station sure doesn't look like it did when Howard Rose owned it and Thanny Higgins was caretaker!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 09/19/2011 - 05:28:28
After many invites to visit the Old Harbor Station in P-Town, I was able to attend the Rededication Ceremony of the Old Harbor Life Saving Station today-one of our Chat-M-Room friends Mr Richard G Ryder has done alot to try and get this station back to what it was when it was a active station on North Beach.His work and dedication has given many, and I mean Many visiters a better understanding of what the Life Saving Service and the US Coast guard was and Is all about.With the help of Mr Ryder and many others, the history of the Life Saving Service and the early US Coast Guard will live on.

Thank You Mr Ryder for all your hard work and dedication;
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Sun 09/18/2011 - 19:37:15
There has been a seal making a living at the entrance to the Little Mill Pond since before Irene. I saw three seals in the middle of the Mill Pond in a group this past Wednesday.
Tony Murphy <redcat23@verizon.net>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Sun 09/18/2011 - 08:31:40
I can't believe what I saw today! We anchored in Little Mill Pond to have lunch with our son Scott. Nice quiet, sunny fairly warm spot.....when after about an hour of enjoying fish jumping and our lunch.....up popped a SEAL right behind our boat! Whoosh.....sniff....swiveled head and disappeared. No wonder the fish were jumping. I tried to get a photo but failed, and I think Scott may have gotten one on his camera before we left. I've never seen one in Oyster Pond, and to me, this was amazing.
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 09/17/2011 - 14:58:13
Is anyone familiar with Darius Hammond of Chatham- buried in Seaside Cemetery- b 1835 and died 1919?There is a newspaper article I have questions about.Any descendants of his read this forum?
Thank you!
Cynthia Moore <cynthiamoore120@yahoo.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/16/2011 - 17:10:29
Sorry about that!! When I first checked, my post hadn't even gone in once!!
Guess you're right, Nancy!!!!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/16/2011 - 11:49:32
Jane is still so "shook up" by Ben's hug she posted twice!!

Carl, Thanks for the dish delivery!
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/16/2011 - 10:59:48
Carl and Carol - Thanks for hosting a great party - so nice to see everyone again! Great food, great hosts, and to let you know that Mary Sue thoroughly enjoyed meeting all of you! Sorry, Ben, for causing you to drop your drink - LOL!!!
And thanks, Carl, for delivering my salad bowl, etc., already this morning!!
Jane
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/16/2011 - 10:36:33
Thanks, Carl and Carol for a wonderful party!! So nice to see everyone again - great food - great hosts - and just to let you know that Mary Sue thoroughly enjoyed meeting all of you - Sorry that Ben dropped his drink!!!! LOL!!!
And, thanks, Carl, for delivering my salad bowl this morning.
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/16/2011 - 10:30:55
Thanks Carol and Carl for a smashing good party..
Gordon <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/16/2011 - 07:51:57
Terrific CHAT-M-Room gathering last night! Happy to finally meet fellow Californian Ben and enjoy putting names to faces and filling mine with great food. Thanks again!
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/16/2011 - 07:05:58
Carl and Carol such wonderful hosts, thanks for a long overdue party!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/16/2011 - 03:45:06
Carol and Carl, Wonderful party, lovely home, great tribute by Carl to his daughter's boyfriend, delicious food.....and the much awaited hug with Ben and Jane. Thanks so very much!
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 09/15/2011 - 23:11:35
Please know that this coming Sunday, there will be a rededication of the Old Harbor Life Saving Station at Race Point. The Station has been redone to 1900 US Life Saving Service appearance, inside and out. Check out the Cape Cod Times in the next day or so for an article. Low key festivities start at 1330. Guests include Sarah Peake, Dan Wolf and Rear Admiral Neptun, USCG First District Commandant . Hope to see you there.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 09/15/2011 - 20:53:26
Carol and CARL,Thank you for a great time.
Irene God Bless America
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 09/15/2011 - 20:05:30
Wonderful, wonderful party Carol and Carl... Thanks sooooooooooooo much.....
Jean Pratt <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 09/15/2011 - 19:35:50
I'm also planning to stop by the party but will first be going to a CPRC meeting at 4pm so when that finishes, I'll pop over.
J Hallgren (as user)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 09/15/2011 - 10:31:23
Sounds like a party! I will bring deviled eggs and brownies, but Dick can only stay a little bit as he has a Coast Guard Auxillary Mtg. Can't wait!
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 09/14/2011 - 17:04:08
Carl and Carol,
I hope it's okay if I bring my guest from Tennessee who is visiting me this week - "Mary Sue". We are really looking forward to your party!!!!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 09/14/2011 - 11:25:39
CARL, I'am going to make beans for your fun time get together.I'am going to cook them starting tonight and bring them to your house some time tomorrow.Carol your in charge of the beans.Have a great time.
Irene God Bless America
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 09/13/2011 - 16:47:43
Carl and Carol, Marilyn and I will be there, anything special we should bring? Ian Mott and I are working the "paper drive" at Stop and Shop, Patriots Sqaure but will be back in plenty of time. Can't wait!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 09/13/2011 - 04:09:14
Ben:
Sullen and morose folks don't work either.
I'll be at Old Harbor Station in P'Town that afternoon, and don't usually get back to Eastham until well after 5. Party on!
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 09/12/2011 - 20:22:14
Carl and Carol - limited internet access until Thursday - if you were asking me, of course please start anytime, i'll do my best to get there - just tell me where and when you want me, i'll try to check this room sometime tomorrow - my cell is 619 405 5507 - thanks so much for hosting a "gleeful" group (morose and serious would not have been any fun)!
ben h
coronado, CA USA - Mon 09/12/2011 - 17:11:38
Carl and Carol - it won't work for me. Have a wonderful get-together!
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Mon 09/12/2011 - 11:20:53
Irene - sorry you can't make it but as we were so poignantly reminded yesterday, sometimes duty comes before self. Carol would like to know if you ever have any extra of those baked beans you make. Others - if you sometimes walk like me, often between a shuffle and a stumble, please park in the driveway as we can easily accommodate eight to ten vehicles. We hope a lot of you come who haven't contacted us, otherwise it looks like a rather small but gleeful group. Ben - can't we start that Red Alert a little early?

Carl and Carol
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 09/12/2011 - 09:52:34
What a truly wonderful memorial today put on by the police, fire, coast guard. I am so proud to be an American in Chatham.
Alice
West Chatham, MA USA - Sun 09/11/2011 - 19:41:03
Carl, I have bad news .I can.t make it Thursday. Iam cooking a spaghetti dinner at the V.F.W Iam so srry I was looking forward to having a fun night.Hope alot of people show up.
Irene God Bless America
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 09/11/2011 - 16:56:13
Thursday, Sept. 15th is my 55th birthday with long-planned festivities by my family. Hope you all have a great time at your gathering!
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Thu 09/08/2011 - 09:24:13
Thanks to Allen and Bill for information about the towers at Forest Beach. It's nice to this kind of place where one can ask these kinds of questions!
Jennifer
USA - Wed 09/07/2011 - 11:20:24
to Jennifer:
The foundations at Forest Beach were for a 300ft self supporting tower which was 300 ft above the foundations. It was used for Marine Radiotelegraph contacts with ships at sea by "WCC Chatham Radio" The tower was erected in 1947 and demolished I beleive in 1999.
A diarama of the station is on display at Chatham Marconi Maritime Center Museum at Chathamport.
Regards from Bill R.
William Ryder
Chathamport, MA USA - Tue 09/06/2011 - 11:38:28
Sorry I should have said 'Richard'.
Barry <barsyl4041@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 09/05/2011 - 20:15:04
Bob: I was working at the Esso station for Al Long, and the Navy bought fuel from us and transported it to Hardings Beach, but the trucks they had were military duce and 1/2, they were all wheel drive, but they wouldn't go in the soft sand with dual wheels, so we brought them to the station and reversed the inner wheels and put them on as single wheels in the back so they would track with the front wheels. Then they brought all their towers etc. down the beach and set them up. These were the first Loran A, the predecessor of Loran C. This was about 1960-61. They were there just for the summer testing different sites on Monomoy Point and Nantucket.
Barry <barsyl4041@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 09/05/2011 - 20:12:52
Carl, Oh Oh - guess I'll need to be "schooled" in the ways of the military, according to my son!!!! Sounds great, though, and I shall certainly be there with something for all to eat and enjoy!
Thank you Carl and Carol!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Mon 09/05/2011 - 10:59:53
Bob --
The towers went up in a hurry I believe that was the winter of 1960-61 and were still standing in 1963 when my family moved to Hyannis. They could have come down before your return to the Cape. I emailed you with additional details.
Richard Marchal
Marion, IL USA - Mon 09/05/2011 - 09:54:15
Great idea Carl! Dick and I will be there with some sort of edible. Thanks!
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 09/05/2011 - 06:31:53
Wow, Carl that sounds great!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 09/05/2011 - 04:28:57
I'll obviously have to school my mom on the ways of "aviators". Ben, I may be in Illinois at present but I HAVE made some LOOONG shots in my career.....
JimP
Scott Afb, USA - Sun 09/04/2011 - 20:41:16
Carl: You have a generous spirit and Yes, I will be at your "treasure the moment" party, most likely bringing a potato dish. Sorry I missed you AGAIN (my loss).
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 09/04/2011 - 17:39:05
Of there is enough foe all that come.
Irene God Bless America
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 09/04/2011 - 16:41:55
Carl, That sounds fantasic. I will bring Meat balls and Baked beans for Carol.
Irene God Bless America
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 09/04/2011 - 16:37:40
This is a Chatroom "Purple Alert" - Carol and I would like to have a ChatRoom party beginning at 5:00 PM or so on Thursday. September 15th in order to clock how long Ben hugs Jane! I guess it is pot luck - if you want to bring something to eat, share with others, and take home what is not consumed, please do so. Feel free to bring your favorite beverage or save money and drink my liquids. I'll have ice. Best to park next door at the rear lot of Bank of America and follow the path to our home. Address is 146 Old Harbor Road in Chatham and the phone number is TAC (This Area Code) 508-945-9873 and email is attached if you should need to contact us.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 09/04/2011 - 14:23:12
Those are the foundations for the WCC radio tower. Just up the hill from there was a large brick building that housed the transmitters and receivers and a residence where my uncle Bill Ryder lived for many years - as he was the manager of the site. There is a diorama of the whole set up at the Marconi Radio Museum in Chathamport. Maybe Bill will chime in here and tell you how tall the tower was (it was useful as a aid to navigation) and what year it was taken down.
Allen R. Boyce
West Hartford, CT USA - Sun 09/04/2011 - 14:03:03
Speaking of towers, could someone tell me what the old pillars/towers are in the marsh down by Forest Beach?
Jennifer
USA - Sun 09/04/2011 - 10:01:35
Can someone enlighten me as to why there is even a West Chatham project at all if there are no state funds for the design? Just got the update from the Chronicle this morning. Is this like all those expensive "studies" paid for re: the old High School/ Community center?
Thank you.
Cynthia Moore <cynthiamoore120@yahoo.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Sun 09/04/2011 - 08:17:29
Richard Marchal, would you please contact me via my email (compress it) address? I have been asked about the towers several times this year and until now had no knowledge whatsoever about their existence. I returned to Chatham in 1964 after a five year hiatus. Perhaps the towers were gone by then?
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Sun 09/04/2011 - 08:04:11
Jay -- I remember two towers being built at Harding's Beach in the early 1960's. There were several antennas between them and a radio shack. I believe that these were used to monitor the radios aboard the Russian trawlers that arrived about 100 miles east of Highland Light in August of 1960 and moved south over the next few years.

My family lived on Barn Hill Road at the time and my father served in the US Coast Guard aboard the Pollack Rip Lightship.
Richard Marchal
Marion, IL USA - Sat 09/03/2011 - 22:42:20
Ben - Looking forward to that hug on Sept. 15th!!!!!! Maybe we can have a delayed Chatroom party!!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Sat 09/03/2011 - 21:22:07
You may owe John a brew but him drinking it is a different matter
Tony Murphy <redcat23@verizon.net>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Sat 09/03/2011 - 12:30:01
This is a Chatmroom "Green Alert"
On September 15 at a time and place to be determined, we will gather to resolve the following issues
I owe John Whelan a brew
I want to hug Jane P
I want to see Chowdahman

In the naval aviation community, a "green alert" gave ample warning to those involved so they could prepare and be ready whereas a "red alert" meant we're on our way, unlock the liquor cabinet

I'm on my way!
ben <benhallowell@yahoo.com>
coronado, CA USA - Fri 09/02/2011 - 22:36:42
There is a Longstreet Lane in Eastham, adjacent to the bay, named after the target ship the "James Longstreet" placed in Cape Cod Bay as a target for Navy planes. By now I think that electricity has been restored to most places in Eastham.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Fri 09/02/2011 - 15:52:25
Carl I hear old age does that.
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Fri 09/02/2011 - 11:33:02
TO: Judy in Franklin Lakes, NJ
You have posted on the Chatham Massachusetts CHAT-M-Room. You may want to try the Cranberry, NJ town website or call the the police/fire department non-emergency lines for information.
Captain J.D. Cauble
Chatham, MA Police Dept.
Chatham, MA Emergency Management
John Cauble <jdcauble@chatham-ma.gov>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 09/02/2011 - 08:41:21
Does anyone know if there is power near the Bay on Longstreet Lane?
Judy
Franklin Lakes, NJ USA - Thu 09/01/2011 - 22:20:26
September and October--probably the best months on Cape Cod!
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Thu 09/01/2011 - 15:30:17
From CCTimes, as of 8am today, Chatham still had more customers w/o power than any other town! Says 312 for us, Dennis at 281, Falmouth at 263, Yarmouth at 261, etc...so did we get THAT much damage or are we just last in line?
J Hallgren (as user)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 09/01/2011 - 11:42:30
Hooray Hooray it's the first of September.
May the first? I can't remember.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 09/01/2011 - 08:40:40
News from Naples tonight....90 year old lady had her leg amputated by an alligator but her life was saved by an professional Alligator Hunter who was passing by in his truck and knew exactly what to do. Talk about coincidence!
Anna
USA - Wed 08/31/2011 - 22:20:47
Stand by for KATIA, now brewing in the Atlantic.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 08/30/2011 - 20:36:52
Power, telephone and internet were out from about 5:30 PM Sunday until about 5 this afternoon here in North Eastham. When I went by the Wellfleet drive-in late this afternoon there was still a bare primary wire laying in the road on West Road, so I can assume there are still folks in that area w/o power.

Remember back months ago on this site when I said there would be widespread outages due to fallen trees if ever a storm like Hurricane Bob (90 mph winds) showed up? Well this storm was barely at hurricane strength! Twenty years of locust tree growth since Bob, + 65 mph winds, + lots of leaves = lots of problems.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 08/30/2011 - 20:34:17
Joan: Not sure but given that I'm 3/4 of way down to beach and I've got it so it may be likely they do also.
J Hallgren (as user)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/30/2011 - 15:31:13
Any idea if there is power in the cottages on the side roads off of Pleasant St,South Chatham?
joan
USA - Tue 08/30/2011 - 14:26:18
Just got power back on here! At 1:44pm today! YEAAAA!
J Hallgren (as user)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/30/2011 - 14:01:00
i am out of town. can someone tell me if the power is back on in the lakeview ave area in riverbay. thanks.
jeanne c <jcomp02633@yahoo.com>
chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/29/2011 - 08:17:20
This post is coming to y'all via candlelight, dial-up 28.8 modem on laptop, and flashlight! Power went off 10:10am Sunday and still out...Haven't seen any power trucks in area yet either...Took some food over to my other house in So. Yarmouth in early evening as power still on there....hope it won't be days out!
J Hallgren (as user)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Sun 08/28/2011 - 23:00:41
How is everyone faring this Sunday evening ??
Jean Pratt <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 08/28/2011 - 19:02:21
Hasten-Dazs vanilla Swiss almond
Chowderman <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 08/28/2011 - 15:16:44
Gee Sean, I agree with you. Lets stop calling people stupid as some people have just above, and leave the three lanes alone.
George Goodspeed Jr
USA - Sat 08/27/2011 - 10:31:56
Sean:
The whole section of Route 28 entering the town of Chatham from Route 137 is ugly, based on the convolutions in the road and the apparent total lack of any community effort in getting it remedied. Check out Route 39 in Harwich, which is, or was, in the district of former Rep. Shirley Gomes. Really nicely paved, nice drainage, no problems. Maybe what Chatham needs is a vocal representative at the State House.
And while you're at it, get the Route 28 North and South signs that show between Orleans and Chatham removed. It is really embarrassing to have to explain this to enlightened tourists, most of which have GPS in their cars or on their Ipads. Of course, there are folks who don't even know which way is North, even with a compass in their hands.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Fri 08/26/2011 - 20:29:22
Ive read much critisisum on the W. Chatham Road project. some have referred to officials as brainless. Because I respect and admire so many folks in this forum I would like to explain my support... Since I was a child this section of road has been a running joke, generally accepted as being the ugliest section of road in town. This tiny section of three lane highway makes zero sence. It confuses far more than it helps. Two lanes with sidewalks would match the surrounding roads and look far more attractive. The two lanes will slow traffic and if we instituted zoning changes along with the road changes this area of town would become a destination, not just an ugly part of your trip downtown. Based upon ohter areas in the country that have tried this so called "smart growth" it has done nothing but work!! It has prettied up the area, increased business activity and increased property value for all who live near... How bad can that be? ..... Now, I dont much like the light or the rotary and would rather have those negotiated out and we have that chance moving forward. But lets avoid throwing rocks at each other and try to honestly assess what would be best for Chatham as we think about making these changes.
Sincerly Sean
Sean <srsummer@comcast.net >
Chatham , MA USA - Fri 08/26/2011 - 16:59:59
Around 1960 I remember large white and red antenna,s two of them ,they were on the hill at hardings beach ,the first beach behind the bath house ,anyone who remembers these please email me ,thank you!
JAY MURPHY <JAYMURPHY3@HOTMAIL.COM>
PALM BEACH, FL USA - Fri 08/26/2011 - 14:28:16
Hello, Barbara. Hope all is well in S.C. We used to stop at the Swamp Fox Campground on the way South.
dan meservey <danmeservey@aol.com>
w. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 08/25/2011 - 23:58:35
Thanks to Richard, Bob, Wayne, and Barbara for telling us the names of the roads beginning with "Old". Some of which I had never heard of. Anna
Anna
USA - Thu 08/25/2011 - 20:49:29
Anna - here's a list of all of them - in pr. 1: old academy, old field bend, old harbor ln, old harbor rd., old mail rd, old queen anne rd., old salt works rd, old wharf rd., old towne ln.. in pr. 2: old cart way, old main st., old tavern rd. And olde village rd. And again,. Old queen anne rd.

I know this because, when I left chatham I bought 'town of chatham, persons listed', dated jan. 1, 1993. I reference this a lot, especially when I see a familiar name in this room.

I hope mr. Dave ryder had a happy b/d. I often thought that some of the folks who did genealogy work in my office (like dave did) should write a book about some of the stories they would tell about the past in chatham. and here they are.
the chat-m-room is my first stop online every morning - and I delight in reading it. hello to all my friends up there.
iylah (barbara)
Barbara Brown <iylahb@att.net>
Florence, SC USA - Thu 08/25/2011 - 10:44:17
Is Irene even coming here? Remember Earl? Is Jim Cantore at the Chatham Fish Pier yet?
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/24/2011 - 22:54:10
Hope Irene doesn't take care of the rest of those North Beach Camps.
Chester Berne
WI USA - Wed 08/24/2011 - 21:52:16
Old Salt Works/ Old Field Bend/ Old Tavern/ Old Turkey Farm/ Old Village/ Old Towne. I think that about does it. I got them from the tax list.
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/24/2011 - 16:52:47
Bob...I was wondering if anyone would remember Old Main St. I lived right across from one of the entrances to that Street off of Rt. 28.
Anna
USA - Wed 08/24/2011 - 16:52:14
Old Main Street
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Wed 08/24/2011 - 14:41:35
Let's see: Old Comers, Old Queen Anne, Old Academy, Old Harbor, Old Mail, ....................
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 08/24/2011 - 14:12:28
When the dust settles regarding the demise of the North Beach Camps ( which we all hate to see happen)and the inconsiderate jaywalkers have left Chatham (maybe Labor Day is the time for Chatham folks to jaywalk over the Cape Cod Canal bridges), here is a memory quiz for you. Without looking at a map of Chatham (not even a peek), list all the streets and roads in Chatham which begin with "Old" such as Old Harbor Road. Not really fair for present or former police officers or firemen to participate unless at the end of this quiz they know of any which are not listed. I don't know the names of all of them but I bet lots of you folks can put the list together.
Anna
USA - Wed 08/24/2011 - 12:32:21
John - What a great idea!!!!
Judy
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/24/2011 - 11:12:45
I find it amazing that more jaywalkers downtown who step right out between cars and then don't even look in the direction of traffic for that lane don't get hit! It's like they think everyone will see them in time...I recall one who was looking up at 2nd floor above Carmine's and never once looked in my direction.

Also think that the town could make some quick money by setting up a crosswalk "sting" in front of Town Hall or similar to catch those who don't stop for people in actual crosswalk...a couple of officers and a video camera for proof could likely net more than enough to pay for their time.
J Hallgren (as user)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/24/2011 - 09:12:34
How about the young families with double strollers and tots on bikes in the road with their backs to traffic? Downtown, families of four riding on the crowded sidewalks? And the best of the summer was watching two young boys and their father get off their bikes across the street from my house on Queen Anne Rd to "perform" tight-rope walking on the wire guard rail, falling off multiple times! (must be the last week in August, I get cranky)
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/24/2011 - 06:19:31
As a daily walker, I am amazed that some walkers risk their lives by refusing to stay on the sidewalks. And the way some people drive in Chatham, I'm not sure you are safe even on the sidewalks. There are many drivers going 50 plus on Bridge Street and Stage Harbor Road in the morning. Often on the cellphone. I have spoken to the head of Chatham's Trafic Committee and he says that speed limit enforcement is the responsibility of the Police Department. So I stay on the correct side of the road and keep my eyes open.
john whelan <sockpirate@comcast.net>
chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/23/2011 - 21:22:52
People walk three and four abreast IN THE ROAD even IF sidewalks are available. If you honk at them or politely try to tell them *single file* or *what is wrong with the sidewalk,* you might get a very IMpolie *F* you. It has happened to us.
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/23/2011 - 19:11:33
Well that certainly was interesting - an earthquake in DC - lots of motion but no damage. Buildings evacuated and people fearful. Not used to them here. Heard it was felt in MV. How abouot Chatham. Now we get a hurricane at the end of the week-end!
Roy Kime <rckime@msn.com>
Washington, DC USA - Tue 08/23/2011 - 15:44:20
I was in favor of when they brought the bike lane spur from Harwich into Chatham - and at this time of year I am not too sure I was right. Lot of cyclists, many who don't accept the share the road signage. I walk, but I am not going to miss those who walk two or three abreast around curves and up hills and sometimes on the wrong side of the road and sometimes do not use the available sidewalks. Must be the last part of August. Saw a vacant parking space on Main Street downtown Chatham today.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/23/2011 - 14:20:58
Happy Birthday to my cousin Linda Boyce Stanton!
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/23/2011 - 10:12:16
Happy Birthday Capt. Dave Ryder!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/23/2011 - 08:06:46
Happy Birthday Capt.Dave Ryder
Cynthia Moore <cynthiamoore120@yahoo.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/23/2011 - 08:02:49
Happy Birthday Captain Dave...Hope you don't mind,but as a former member of the Chatham Ceremonial Committee I submitted your name to the 300 committee to be the Marshall for the 4th of July parade next year..You deserve it..
Gordon <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/23/2011 - 07:05:13
Capt.Dave! Many Happy returns of the day to you.
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/23/2011 - 07:03:34
Happy 96th Birthday Captain Dave Ryder!
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 08/22/2011 - 20:36:16
Anyone who is concerned about the National Seashore's plan to prematurely destruct their 5 NBI camps is encouraged to show their support for the families that have used them for decades by attending the Chatham Board of Selectmen meeting tomorrow, August 23 at 4:15pm in the downstairs meeting room at the Main Street town offices. We hope to urge the Seashore to reconsider their plan through pressure from the public and our local and state elected officials.
Bob Long <capernl@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/22/2011 - 06:57:57
Carl and Barry,sorry about that.Istill can't fighre out what Verison did after than changrd the way things are done.
Irene God Bless America
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 08/21/2011 - 15:10:40
Ron McVickar may he rest in peace.
Cynthia Moore <cynthiamoore120@yahoo.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Sun 08/21/2011 - 08:30:06
Don Edge, Could you please email me re: the 300th celebration of Chatham? Thanks.
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 08/20/2011 - 21:01:50
No change to the order. They did say that if it takes longer to get everything set up, they may give the folks more time to remove their belongings.
Bob Long <capernl@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 08/20/2011 - 10:00:06
Jim Owens of Eastham is THE local expert on such things.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Sat 08/20/2011 - 09:41:40
Since the Chatham windmill will be up and running in the spring, Frank Messina of The Windmill Group would like to find someone who has operated the windmill. Tom Buckley told me that the last operator he knows of was Gunny Eldredge. Is there anyone out there who can help Frank and the Windmill Group?
Don Edge
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 08/19/2011 - 19:45:57
No change to the order. They did say that if it takes longer to get everything set up, they may give the folks more time to remove their belongings.
Bob Long <capernl@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 08/19/2011 - 18:30:17
Bob....was there any change to the order?
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 08/19/2011 - 15:55:45
They said they have to apply for emergency funding since they don't have the resources. If there was a special account set up, it must have been 'reallocated' at some point.
Bob Long <capernl@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 08/19/2011 - 10:27:26
Bob, It was my understanding that the monies that was being paid to USPS was being put into a special account, and that It would be used when the time came to take the buildings down.I beleave this was done when the USPS had its budget cut someyears back; I have not kept up on things but Bill Hammett was the town contact person for many years; He should know the ins and outs.
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Fri 08/19/2011 - 09:24:58
The camp owners I've spoken to were surprised by getting only 30 days notice, not that the Seashore was taking action. Most did not expect to get renewal of the leases for next season but were hoping to enjoy the rest of this year at their camps. The ones I spoke to were also disappointed at the way they came about their decision; no input from locals and professionals that are more familiar with the conditions out there and the construction of the camps in question. Nobody is really disputing that the island is deteriorating. What's in question is just how imminent the danger is. Having them take down all 5, which generate over $40k in revenue for the Seashore each year with virtually no expense to them, because one may be in trouble is frustrating, to say the least. Especially when you consider that even their 'expert' consultant, Dr. Graham Geise, as predicted that some may still be around for 10 years or more. Seems to me the revenue generated by the continued leasing of those that aren't in danger would more than offset the cost differential of having to send crews out twice. We were optimistically hoping for a 2-phase approach. I didn't have my dentist take all my teeth out when one was bad just because it would save us the hassle of having to go back for the others later. Why take out all the camps when they still provide revenue and are a part of the physical and cultural heritage of our community?
Bob Long <capernl@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 08/19/2011 - 07:28:51
As am interested observer, I plan to attend the meeting this afternoon regarding disposition of the five North Beach Island camps. Back in 1959 or 1960, a camp that my father had purchased many years prior was sold to a local family. The understanding at the time was its "deed" was questionable, and that future rights to its use might be in jeopardy. That actually may now occur, after half a century. To believe that it comes as a surprise to the camp dwellers is a "reach". While I sympathize with the families involved, there seems to have been ample warnings issued. There could never be a "good time" for the NPS to carry out the actions that it proposes, but there is precedent, nationally.
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Thu 08/18/2011 - 11:34:24
Left in the daark on this one, Tim. They arten't too pleased about it either.
Bob Long <capernl@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 08/18/2011 - 09:56:44
The cottages on North Beach . . . do people own the land and the cottage or just the cottage? Someone once told me that the land was leased.
Walter
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 08/18/2011 - 08:38:54
Left in the daark on this one, Tim. They arten't too pleased about it either.
Bob Long <capernl@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/17/2011 - 20:52:34
Mr. Keon was the only one? Where were the Selectmen and Chatham's Rep to the
National Seashore Advisory Commission?????
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/17/2011 - 20:26:24
Based on some preliminary inquiries I've made in addition to discussions during our North Beach Advisory Committee meetings, it appears that Ted Keon was the only town official in contact with the Seashore prior to their decision. It's unclear at this time how much of an influence he made that would have contributed to their conclusuion that all of the camps should come down now. Hoping to learn more at the meeting.
Bob Long <capernl@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/17/2011 - 10:50:10
Bob ...Do you know if the Town of Chatham had any influence/input in the National Seashores decision to destroy the camps?
Pat O'Connell <permoc@comcast.net>
Yarmouth/Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/17/2011 - 10:32:11
5 of the 11 are are slated for demolition. The other 6 are privately owned and not under the control of the Seashore.
Bob Long <capernl@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/17/2011 - 10:10:17
Bob, how many buildings are we talking about?
Alice
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/17/2011 - 09:25:54
Anyone who disagrees with the Cape Cod National Seashore's plan to displace families from the North Beach Island camps with only 30 days notice and prematurely demolish the camps(most likely by burning) is encouraged to show their support for the families by attending the meeting Thursday, August 18 at 5:30pm at the new Town Office Annex. We are hoping the Seashore will reconsider their plan. Public image is important to them, as shown by their reversal of last year's plan to poison crows in order to protect plovers.
Bob Long <capernl@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/17/2011 - 06:24:14
Unfortunately, the last story I read about the Pearl was a couple of years ago (I think I posted it here someplace) and she was in a sad state of disrepair down in Florida someplace. You can still find a couple of his boats for sale and in the July/August 2001 issue of Wooden Boat you can find a very nice article on him and his designs. We used to live just a few houses away from him.
Chester Berne
WI USA - Tue 08/16/2011 - 16:40:09
The Bridge Street Maze sounds very cool. I have a rough idea where it is, yet, have missed it to date. Can anyone check it out or is it private property? What ever happened to the Ocean Pearl? There's got to be a good story there. On an entirely different topic, does anyone know of an older sailboat in need of a good home and some very active use? Thanks to Tommy and Linda Doane our boys have gotten hooked on sailing/racing this summer and are after me (each week) to get a sailboat (i.e., Beetle Cat; Day Sailer; Roades 19, etc.). I'd also be interested in an older seaworthy skiff or '70s/'80s Whaler. Any leads from the CHAT-M-ROOM brain trust would be most appreciated. Many thanks. Hope that you are all fairing well.
Ned and Julie Chapman <e.j.chapman@hotmail.com>
Doha, Qatar - Tue 08/16/2011 - 09:17:45
Jerry! Skipper of the Ocean Pearl was Capt.Ray Gore,lived up on Morris Island
Rd.in the house in the wooded area.Andy Potvin was the cook and crew,lived in
the boathouse.Both men,nice guys and worked for Seward for many years.
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/16/2011 - 08:46:43
Janet Raymond, ( Spauldings second wife ) and my wife Jean, used to walk Essie Johnson's "Dog Run", aka "The Maze".
Jim Buckley and I used to work for Joe Buckley Senior back in the 40's mowing lawns. The Johnson estate was one of them. However, Jim and I were not allowed to mow the path that led down to the dock on Big Mill Pond and the reason being that Essie would sun bath down there !!!!!!!!!!! WE GOT CAUGHT PEEKING !!!!!!!! Bad, bad boys...
Gordon <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/15/2011 - 16:54:03
The so-called maze was given by Esther Underwood Johnson to the Chatham Conservation Foundation some years ago. It was in there that Ned Collins and his cousin found the German sympathizer in 1941 as I wrote in a recent Chronicle article. At one point, some of it was cranberry bog and some was a large vegetable garden. It is all grown over today. You can walk the various paths and end up down on Morris Island Road. There are deer in there and sometimes coyotes. I sometimes see 2 coyotes on Bridge Street when I walk early in the morning. They run into the maze when I come over the hill. Lots of ticks and poison ivy, but fun to walk.
john whelan <sockpirate@comcast.net>
chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/15/2011 - 16:10:23
The maze used to originate on Bridge St across the street from the Johnson family properties about half way down on the left. Not sure who maintains them anymore. Cape Caretakers? JERRY
jerry <jerrmoore@verizon.net>
chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/15/2011 - 15:45:16
The Ocean Pearl was designed for Seward Johnson by Spaulding Dunbar and built in the Netherlands. It was in the deep water slip at the house you describe where the Skipper lived. Where is the maze?
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/15/2011 - 15:19:59
as an additional fact on the Ocean Pearl, Carl, I believe the skipper of that vessel lived in that house where the dock was in the summer and his name was Andy Potvin.
jerry <jerrmoore@verizon.net>
chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/15/2011 - 13:55:50
Hi Carl I used to mow those for the johnson and johnson family as a teenager. I believe they used to connect up with the house the j and j family used to own down near the dike where they docked the Ocean Pearl on the right just before the bend - The family sailboat that in its time was quite beautiful. As a kid I remember mowing the maze and coming in to contact with some poison ivy. As a kid I thoguht Hmmmm- I'll just take a bath and that'll take care of that! Big mistake-- worst case of head to toe PI I ever got. Now I never get it and can rip it out with my bare hands!
jerry <jerrmoore@verizon.net>
chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/15/2011 - 13:53:39
Does anyone know how the maze off of Bridge Street came to be and who maintains it?
Chowderman <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/15/2011 - 12:06:36
Got an updated email from Ryan D who'd asked about housing: "I found a place in Harwich that should be close enough." -- so I guess that's taken care of.
J Hallgren (as user/Moderator)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Sat 08/13/2011 - 10:11:56
Tony is right but the other problem is that both Geo North and South are lower than Rt. 28. If everything was on the level it would help a lot.
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Fri 08/12/2011 - 21:04:56
I didn't say we should take anybodies property. I just said the roads don't line up.
Tony Murphy <redcat23@verizon.net>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 08/12/2011 - 19:30:30
Got an email today that I can't help with (I'm fully booked) but maybe someone here can if needed? Here's the body of it: "This is Ryan Darmon from the control room (Ch 18). I'm having some major car problems and may have to find a place in Chatham for the next couple of weeks to do the meetings. Do you have any cottages open and if so how far away is Town Hall from them?"

If you might be able to help out, email me.
Thanks!
J Hallgren (as user/Moderator)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 08/12/2011 - 16:58:21
You gota see da plan, man. Little West Chatham, with a beautiful Roundabout at its feet. Where are we going?
dan meservey <danmeservey@aol.com>
west chatham, MA USA - Fri 08/12/2011 - 14:45:25
As soon as someone is attacked by a shark at lighthouse beach every one will head for Harding's to the new third parking lot and a traffic light will be required at Harding's and rte 28.
Should be as savings on beach patrol at lighthouse.
As far as George Ryder south isint it a private road?
pete
chatham, MA USA - Fri 08/12/2011 - 11:45:30
If the State decides to put in a round-a-bout they will be chopping more than 10 feet from Dan...Isn't that right Dan ???
Gordon <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 08/12/2011 - 09:43:14
Line up George Ryder by chopping 10 plus feet from Dan Meserveys gas station. I'm sure he wouldn't mind..LOL...
Gordon <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 08/12/2011 - 09:41:06
What makes the intersection of George Ryder Rd. and Rt.28 so awkward is the fact that George Ryder Rd. and George Ryder South are not directly opposite each other. I don't think lights of any kind will work there until the roads line up.
Tony Murphy <redcat23@verizon.net>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 08/12/2011 - 06:54:44
Thanks to the CCCHook Fishermen's Assoc. for a great get together this evening - the food was wonderful, the front lawn of the Nathan Harding House was beautiful with the white tablecloth covered tables, beautiful arrangements of hydrangeas at each table; the Pat Ryan "full spectrum music" combo which furnished the music; the whole ambiance was just lovely. And it was great seeing and talking with so many nice people.
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 08/11/2011 - 21:57:04
Why not make it right turn only from George Ryder Road onto Route 28?
Larry
USA - Thu 08/11/2011 - 19:43:46
Why not a traffic light at Barn Hill but a Flashing Red Light 4 way stop at George Ryder...Wouldn't that work ???
Gordon <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 08/11/2011 - 17:55:02
There are several places where it would be to everyones advantage to have Route 28 three lanes. The current three lanes at Barn Hill could be extended to Old Queen Anne. The protion of 28 From Sam Ryder to past Ridgevale Road. When I was younger, there was several sections of Route 28 that were three lanes. It is a good concept and should be continued. Some one was thinking when it was put into use. To change it would be a real bad move.

George
George Goodspeed Jr <George.goodspeed@gmail.Com>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 08/11/2011 - 17:51:02
Carl, it is usually 9:00 PM. I can't get over that early morning rising!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 08/11/2011 - 16:54:03
Ben Nickerson - we can see what time you are up in the morning by your entries to this site. I am just wondering, what time do you go to bed? The other late night, early owl is John H. the moderator.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 08/11/2011 - 13:55:37
I agree with Barry, Sylvia, and Tommy Doane that a traffic light at those locations would work just fine, as long as they leave the three lanes. After working by that road and over that road for the last 52 years I can't even imagine the problems two lanes will create! Anyone who is driving 40 MPH in that area for the last two years is not driving in the same type vehicles I am!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 08/11/2011 - 04:00:02
I think a traffic light at Barn Hill Road and a traffic light at George Ryder Road would make things work just fine.
Tommy Doane <tommydoane@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/10/2011 - 21:48:46
Wayne Love:
I wonder if the map/photo you have might show the former location of the Chatham Life Saving Station. It was at one time over on North Beach-maybe in 1892 or so. Then it was moved back to the Morris Island area. Old Harbor Station was built on North Beach in 1898 to fill in the gap between the Chatham and Orleans stations.
My sister has an early watercolor of North Beach looking south, and in the background there appears a "Red house" type of building, of which there were 9 built in 1872 on the Cape. One might have been the Chatham Station, temporarily on North Beach. The early stations had red roofs to make them stand out along the coast, just in case you actually had a choice of where to land your distressed and soon to be wrecked vessel. That's why Coast Guard stations still have red roofs!
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 08/10/2011 - 21:14:04
Wayne, if you want to bring it down to us, we can do it for you.
Barry and Sylvia <barsyl4041@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/10/2011 - 20:47:10
Richard G Ryder; I also cme across a photo of the old Village of North Chatham, No date To the right of the area of north Chatham Is a map of monomoy Island; It shows the locations of Life saving station # 7 i think; Life saving station number 3 Old Harbor point and Monomoy point light; Never seen one like this before
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Wed 08/10/2011 - 19:17:38
Thanks everyone for the information on the Boston Store;I wish I was able to send the photo out to you all; guest time for an updated machine; Will be placing the photo in a frame and hang it with alot of other old Main street Stores. Thanks Alot
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Wed 08/10/2011 - 19:06:00
Ben, don't you think that a traffic light (not just flashers) at Barn Hill or Geo.Ryder, might be the answer?
Barry and Sylvia <barsyl4041@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/10/2011 - 18:51:50
Ned and Julie, my cousin Mary Hallowell was married to Jimmy Hallowell and they ran the bowling alley on Chatham Bars Ave for years. Lot's of people remember them and the alley and the teams. Then I think in the 70's Jimmy turned the alley into a storage warehouse and ran that for some time. They had the most charming apartment on the ocean end of the building and Jimmy had his office on the Main St. end, he would walk his two little white dogs up the length of that building each day in the AM, back at lunch time, after nap back up to the office. Mary had a lovely side yard with gardens so beautiful. They lived there for quite a few years, then Jimmy died and Mary moved to Providence to be near her daughter Lyn Bliss and Richard Swan moved in and took over the storage warehouse business until I don't really know when, probably until he died . The Hallowell kids sold it to I don't really know who, maybe CBI but I don't think CBI has it now. Bowling was fun years ago...
Jean Pratt <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/10/2011 - 18:47:35
Yes, Richardson was their name. I remembered it last night. Mr. Coffin was the pharmacist I was trying to recall. Funny how things pop into the mind around 3A.M.!
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Wed 08/10/2011 - 14:13:05
Had another case of minor vandalism here last nite...my Pleasant Forest Shores sign was pulled up from tubes in ground (it's taken in during winter) and laid on front steps of house across street...not all that easy as it's 3'-6" x 4'-6" and weighs probably about 50-60lbs so must have been two people.
J Hallgren (as user)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/10/2011 - 12:36:17
in the 1930s the bowlig ally was were the info booth is and there were only 2 lanes the bowling ally on chatham bars ave had maybe 10 lanes and it was a great place for bowling i know it was still open in the 70s im not quite sure when it closed but it was before the 80s
Irene God Bless America
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/10/2011 - 10:17:39
Folks: Speaking of the old bowling alley; does anyone know who owns the property now (CBI?). When did it close it's doors? How many lanes did it have and was it a fun place to hang out in its day? I noted on EBay the other day that there's a beautiful large old silver Chatham Bowling Trophey from the 1930s for sale. I think that an old fashion themed bowling alley would be great in Chatham (especially in the winter months). Bowling is an All-American passtime and lots of fun. I always wanted to be on a Team and have one of those neat shirts.
Ned and Julie Chapman <e.j.chapman@hotmail.com>
Doha, Qatar - Wed 08/10/2011 - 07:02:21
Anyone who wants to change the three lane road to two in West Chatham should have witnessed what I did yesterday morning about 10:15 AM. A West bound car was attempting a left turn from the right hand lane (not the middle turning lane)into The West Chatham Post Office plaza. The traffic West bound was backed up to Dick Rouchette's Wheatherboard building with two vehicles trying to exit from Deangelo's, six from Shop Ahoy Plaza, and another six from Barn Hill Road with people trying to stick out into the lane from those places. That could be a full time situation if changed to two lanes!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/10/2011 - 04:26:32
The drugstore beside Puritan was the Chatham Pharmacy, where I went to work when I was 15!! Pappy LaFortune was the owner/pharmacist and Mr. Coffin stayed on and worked there as parttime pharmacist. I worked with Cora Eldredge, Bernice Nickerson, Joan Ruggles, and Shirley Doane. That was my favorite job!!!
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/09/2011 - 21:54:10
I got the job because I delivered the newspaper to the sisters, and they asked me if I would deliver their teeth to Dr. Bisbee. They were in a box - only one set at a time. At least one of them could eat. The teeth just needed adjustments. They were quite old by this time, (the sisters that is) and they couldn't get out very much. They were very nice ladies that had about 6 other apartments over the 3 stores. Luther Nickerson and his wife, Richardson sisters, and Ben Shufro over the drug store.I never wanted to become a 'gummer's mate' as I was a first class line standers mate!!!
Barry <barsyl4041@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/09/2011 - 21:31:31
Barry....were you a Dental Tech in training? (In The USN, we Corpsmen called them "Gummers" Mates.)
You really need to elaborate on this part of Chatham history. Like, why were you transporting teeth? Were the sisters invalids? Did you wear rubber gloves? How did you keep them straight?
Inquiring minds wish to know more.
I'll bet you were excellent at the job, as you so totally have been excellent at being a mechanic all these years!
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 08/09/2011 - 20:56:11
The Boston Store was run by the Richardson sisters, who also lived upstairs. They sold dry goods...fabrics and sewing materials. I use to take their teeth up to the dentist beside the school....Dr. Bisbee I think it was.
Barry <barsyl4041@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/09/2011 - 20:42:33
I believe Mr. Coffin was the pharmacist. I always ordered a cherry or garbage coke and yes, Helena was always on that first stool!
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/09/2011 - 20:27:50
Pappy LaFortune is the one I remember..Gordon tells me he ordered a vanilla coke after school and Helen Bassett sat on the first stool at the counter...
Jean Pratt <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/09/2011 - 20:22:51
Yes, The Boston Store was in the Puritan Clothing Store Block.First I think on the left was Puritan Clothinjg and then the Boston Store and then the drug store. Darned if I can remember the name of the sisters that ran it. It may come to me later or perhaps some else will remember. I believe Luther Nickerson who was a mason lived upstairs on the left and Ben Shufro family lived up on the right. What was the name of the pharmacist?
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Tue 08/09/2011 - 17:52:12
Wayne, there was a Boston Store in Chatham. I think it was in the building where Ed Mallowes bowling alley was. Not positive though
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/09/2011 - 17:39:53
I have come across an old picture, I think it is Chatham; Does anyone know if their was a Boston Store in town years ago ?
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Tue 08/09/2011 - 10:16:54
Thirty years ago, I was 25 years old; so, I get to say The Squire and The Yellow Umbrella Bookstore. That is the next generation for 'ya.
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/09/2011 - 09:26:45
Wayne, thank you, I stand corrected! As for the stupid jaywalkers.....well it is a miracle that we have not had a tragedy with someone being seriously hurt doing what you describe. I try not to stop for them and I have also told them where the nearest crosswalk is....but these people are ENTITLED and have considerable RAGE!
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/09/2011 - 06:26:20
Can we talk about jaywalking? Chatham has had lovely crosswalks forever, giving the right of way, very safely, to pedestrians. Recently, a mother and her maybe 4 yr old child and large dog, stepped out between cars on Main Street right in front of me. There is jaywalking all over the place.
stuart brown <kboyle1@nycap.rr.com>
chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/08/2011 - 20:38:29
Emily; The congo Church changed when they added the class room to the right of the main church when looking from Main Street; The Medth church change when they added the building in the rear of the Main church building;The Libary has changed as they took out the cannon blocks; Also they added a building to the rear as big as the front;I dont think the front of the Wendel Rogers studio has changed , if at all; The only think and for sure has not changed is the number of visiters that croud the town each year; bring with the the fuel that keeps the town moving; and the tax rate DOWN
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Mon 08/08/2011 - 18:45:24
Lets get back to the original question about what has not changed. I mentally walked Main Street from the forties to now, and I could honestly only mention the Congo Church and the Meth Church as absolutely unchanged. Bearse's produce concrete support is still the same under Marge's Children's clothes shop. The Eldredge Public Library is the same....I have pictures of me and my family watching the 4th Parade on the Monument steps.....I am SO relieved the idea of moving that away from the front lawn of the Library was thwarted. The Brick Block, Mayflower, Swinging Basket, Children's Shop buildings are still there but changed.
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/08/2011 - 18:03:37
Wayne, and others: I met one of Howard's granddaughters last week at the "new" Old Harbor Station, now at Race Point. She said he first saw the station because of a plane crash he was involved in on the outer beach.
Last Thursday afternoon, there were 75 visitors to the station from 3-5 PM........the most I've ever had there for an Open House.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 08/08/2011 - 14:59:06
Doc Keene making house calls in his old model A pickup, and Doc Hopkins always on call;
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Mon 08/08/2011 - 09:45:42
And even the Hershey bar has changed. Now smaller than 70 years ago when I was sent down Orleans Road to Helen Robertson,s store to get cigarettes and a Hershey Bar for my Father. A Peppermint Patti for my Mother and my favorite a Sky Bar. Probably when I was first doing it the store belonged to the Simpsons.
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Mon 08/08/2011 - 09:21:33
Howard Rose landing airplane on north beach flats
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Mon 08/08/2011 - 09:07:04
Laundry Creek and Sulphur Springs
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Mon 08/08/2011 - 08:22:31
Larry's PX and Ben Franklin's (except the prices have gone up a bit).
Ned and Julie Chapman <e.j.chapman@hotmail.com>
Doha, Qatar - Mon 08/08/2011 - 02:07:50
Swedish coffee bread and raw bay scallops.
Ken Kesey
USA - Sun 08/07/2011 - 17:38:35
Catching Bluefish and eating cherrystones.
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 08/07/2011 - 17:27:06
The sounds of the gulls and the aromas at the Chatham Fish pier.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 08/07/2011 - 16:39:35
Pate's and how great the Month of October is in Chatham
Tony Murphy <redcat23@verizon.net>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Sun 08/07/2011 - 16:09:42
Rice Krispies (Snap, Crackle and Pop) and the lumps and bumps in the sidewalk in front of the Queen Anne Inn.
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 08/07/2011 - 15:45:48
death and taxes!
bruce
eagle river, alaska, USA - Sun 08/07/2011 - 15:23:09
A Hershey bar with almonds and swimming lessons at the Oyster Pond.
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 08/07/2011 - 15:20:03
A bar of Ivory soap and a Coca Cola.
Gutsball
USA - Sun 08/07/2011 - 14:53:44
What are two things that haven't changed since your youth - maybe thirty or forty or fifty or more years ago? My two answers would be Cherrios and the tube they still put toothpaste in. Your two?
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 08/07/2011 - 14:29:01
The Hawes House is where my mother worked back in the 20's.
Gordon <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 08/06/2011 - 13:49:27
If it hadn't been on the wrong side of the street-------I would have said "The Hawes House".
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Sat 08/06/2011 - 12:17:24
Chester, while Janet was writing that book, she and her husband were our next door neighbors. She and my mother had a good time looking through my mother's photos for Janet's book.
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Sat 08/06/2011 - 08:36:17
Bill: Ship's Bell it was. Across from The Whistling Whale.
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 08/05/2011 - 14:28:50
What was the name of the boarding house directly across from Andrew Hardings Lane? I want to say Ships Bell, but Im not sure.
Bill N.
MO USA - Fri 08/05/2011 - 07:23:54
J.L.W. You won the grand prize! I shall deliver it to your house.
Hint= some little relics from the "Lil Tavern".Food may have been
marginal,but ice cream was out of this world according to my sister.
Not in the twenties, but early thirties. And to think,Harold Tuttle
owned the place!!
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 08/04/2011 - 20:37:23
Tim, in the 1920's, Mert Rogers ran the Lil' Tavern and my mother[Ellen Shepard] and Uncle Charlie[Charlie Shepard] worked there for him. Neither one could cook very well and I remember they always said the food was marginal at that time.
john whelan <sockpirate@comcast.net>
chatham, MA USA - Thu 08/04/2011 - 13:33:08
Dana, while looking through IMAGES OF AMERICA: CHATHAM, by Janet M. Daly (2002), on page 111 there's a great photo (courtesy of Floy Rowland Eilers) of Audra Rowland selecting a lobster behind the Clam Bar.
Chester Berne <cberne@itol.com>
WI USA - Thu 08/04/2011 - 10:53:42
I wonder just how difficult it would be for South Chatham to incorporate as a town. Some of you may remember the E-Eldredge versus I-Eldridge disputes of yore.
Bob R <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
CH, MA USA - Thu 08/04/2011 - 08:35:05
For those who don't get the Chronicle but are in So. Chatham area, here's my Letter to Editor that appears in todays issue:
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Editor:
After doing some door-to-door visits, I'm convinced of the need to get the word out to more South Chatham folks that they must get involved to support a proposed Fire Dept. sub-station on land the town bought in 2007 at Rt. 137 & 28 for it by attending the Aug 10th public forum (7pm at Town Hall) or contacting members of the B.O.S. I've been involved by doing much research on the FD topic and often being the only member of public attending C.P.R.C. meetings because I see the real need for appropriate response times in my area of town plus a new main headquarters building that is not oversized beyond actual needs for it.

I found that some believe the current unmanned garage here holding the oldest engine is actually staffed 24/7! Another misperception is that we get responses near the 6-min national standard when that is the exception, with Pleasant St. times being about 9-10 min, which is past the fire flashover point. Many are concerned about the costs for a sub-station, but a $2M building would only add $9 per yr to the average tax, which seems worth it for the enhanced service levels. Some asked about staffing but the FD study proposes splitting the current shift so there would be no additional FF's, but even with just the current station, we would need to replace two retired FF's to bring it back to twenty-four and thus reduce overtime.

So please get "Fire'D up" so that we who live in "outer left field" can have similar chances to survive a fire/EMS emergency as those closer to home plate by taking action now to add a sub-station to the plan!
J Hallgren (as user)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 08/04/2011 - 00:33:39
Tim, I have a post card of the "Lil Tavern". I will show it to you sometime.
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/03/2011 - 21:15:32
Answer to Clam Bar=Fletcher Davis also ran the clam bar after the Hacketts.
Anyone remember the "Lil Tavern" pre Port Fortune? If so, I have a grand prize
for you!!
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 08/03/2011 - 20:25:56
Then belated thanks, Dana, to your grandmother Rowland, for all of those wonderful hot dogs and clams I consumed at the Clam Bar while growing up!
Chester Berne <cberne@itol.com>
WI USA - Wed 08/03/2011 - 15:35:00
Yes, my grandmother Rowland cooked at the Dutch Oven and at The Clam Bar. My mother Floy Rowland Eilers worked both places, too. I think both may have also worked at Port Fortune, but I will have to ask. I have a pair of sundae dishes from The Dutch Oven. So, thank you for the compliments on the cooking!
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Tue 08/02/2011 - 10:10:16
Chet and Ruth Hackett ran the Dutch Oven in downtown Chatham, also, the Port Fortune = both places where you could get real home cooking.
Jane
W. Chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/01/2011 - 22:19:11
Carl, I haven't a clue
TOMMYDOANE <tommydoane@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/01/2011 - 21:35:03
Do any of you know that Valerie Hackett's granddaughter, Coraline Gaus, is a woman Marine? She graduated from Mass Maritime, and went in to the Marine Corps. We in Eastham who knew her from her days working at Ace Hardware are members of her extensive cheering section. She is destined to do well.
Semper Fi , from a former Navy Corpsman !
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 08/01/2011 - 20:51:33
Who else other than Chet & Ruth ran the Clam Bar on Bridge Street?
Come on Carl!!! And what other restaurants did Chet and Ruth operate?
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/01/2011 - 20:18:52
Dana, Every year the original sign from the take out window from the Clam Bar reappears with the Clam Shack on the Beach. $1.25 for a Fish and Chips Dinner Etc.
Tony Murphy <redcat23@verizon.net>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/01/2011 - 16:52:00
Hey Tommy - do you remember the "Little Darling" boat registration letters/numbers and what they stood for?
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/01/2011 - 16:23:52
I think you guys are referring to THE CLAM BAR. My grandmother and mother both worked there.
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/01/2011 - 15:27:04
It was nice to see SHARK WEEK on the Discovery Channel start off in Chatham last night with JAWS COME HOME. It will be repeated on 8/5 and 8/6 at different times. Some fascinating info when they got their tracking info back; one went all the way into the Gulf of Mexico and a couple of them dove to 2000 feet, something the scientist didn't know they did.
Chester Berne <cberne@itol.com>
WI USA - Mon 08/01/2011 - 10:17:11
I thought the " Little Darling " at anchor out there.
TOMMYDOANE <tommydoane@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 08/01/2011 - 09:52:36
Ya, and Buddy Henderson was playing Chess next door
dan meservey <danmeservey@aol.com>
w. Chatham, MA USA - Sun 07/31/2011 - 21:16:51
Either the last three entries on the Room are from delusional, spaced out folks (which I doubt ) , or I am missing their gist.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 07/31/2011 - 18:12:16
John and Tony -it was nice to see Ruth and Chet there this weekend.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 07/31/2011 - 15:00:23
Yes the Clam Shack did appear this weekend. The fact that it never falls on the same weekend reflects busy summer schedules of the principals. Anyone who shows up gets to eat fresh dug fried clams,squid, scallops and flounder while it lasts. Not to mention the onion rings. The deserts are fabulous to. I think I even saw an ice cold beer.
Tony Murphy <redcat23@verizon.net>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Sun 07/31/2011 - 12:41:13
The World Famous Clam Shack appeared out of the blue today on the beach outside the opening to Stage Harbor. No one can ever know when and where the Clam Shack will materialize. Usually, it's a Sunday and later in the year. One of the principals told me today that the Clam Shack has to be unpredictable to eliminate some of the free-loaders. I don't think he was serious. The Clam Shack offers the best in seafood delicacies. Never miss it-if you can find it.
john whelan <sockpirate@comcast.net>
chatham, MA USA - Sat 07/30/2011 - 21:27:45
Remember Flutie's corvette for sure and loved that little addition to the back of it! "Custer had it coming"!!!!!
Kathy Nowak
Sebastian, FL USA - Thu 07/28/2011 - 09:05:23
Carl....I used to love driving around with Daddy and he would point out houses that he and Grampa built! Sometimes I still see pics in the current real estate mags and they mention it being a "Tom Haley house". How very cool!!!! Thanks so much...and who doesn't remember Uncle Frank's corvette?????!!!!!
Naomi <cccowgirl1111@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 07/27/2011 - 21:44:40
Sad news about Linda Henderson. Great laugh and smile.

Kippy Milley would have turned 60 this summer, but gone shortly after high school. RIP.
Anders
USA - Wed 07/27/2011 - 12:51:04
Helen....Thanks for the story. My mom told me about Uncle Frank being named for your grandfather. I always wished I had a chance to know Daddy when he had his horse! I look forward to hearing from you again!!!!
Naomi <cccowgirl1111@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 07/27/2011 - 10:03:06
That's the wonderful thing about Chatham. You can plant a broomstick in the ground and it will grow. What a beautiful place we live in.
Walter
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 07/27/2011 - 07:14:01
Hi!I'm new to the chatroom and am curious to hear any stories about my family! My dad was Everett Freethy, a builder in town. My grandfather was Tom Haley. My mom is Shirley (James) Freethy, and her siblings are: Howard James, Frank,Rollie,Vivian,June, Thelma and Ernestine. I think it will be fun to see what memories people have of my family. Thanks.....
Naomi <cccowgirl1111@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 07/26/2011 - 11:42:20
Diana, I was in Chatham 10 days or so ago and I too noticed how the shrubbery and trees had GROWN in two years! Also large white fences seem to have popped up everywhere.Helen
Helen Worthing Smith <helen@naviger.com >
Coopers Mills, ME USA - Tue 07/26/2011 - 08:59:21
We just spent a few days back in Chatham, had the opportunity to drive around town, seeing some places the Scout Hall, Dr Keene would be so proud of it.
Finally went to the NFA houses, which is a great place to go back into history.
So many changes in town since the days at the one Chatham school.
The one thing that changed is how fast all the trees through out the Cape have grown in just a couple of years.
Diana G Lapham
FL USA - Mon 07/25/2011 - 16:50:54
Thanks for that Carl, I miss the every day contact with the people that I enjoyed all those years.
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@yahoo.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 07/24/2011 - 05:46:19
Speaking of policing, I had to call CPD today...had some minor vandalism last nite...my name sign with "Hallgren" was ripped off tree near entrance and 'ignition key' to golf cart was taken from the cart by my kitchen door...but...luckily I found it in grass/yard out by street...haven't had any issues here for years...hope this isn't start of new trend.
J Hallgren (as user)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Sat 07/23/2011 - 19:13:15
More community policing would be a great thing for Chatham. It is coming back in many towns acroww the country. Get the police out of the cars and walking "the beat" would be great for the townspeople, the tourists, the shop owners and even the police themselves.

Why not make Main Street traffic one way in the summer? It would help alleviate congestion, making walking and biking easier downtown. It would also make it easier to get the emergency vehicles down Main Street. Just a thought.....
Larry
USA - Sat 07/23/2011 - 09:59:45
I really miss John Brooks.
TOMMYDOANE <tommydoane@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 07/23/2011 - 08:47:46
Good to see Ben Nickerson back on the streets and picking up.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 07/23/2011 - 08:47:26
Does anyone else wish that we had cloned John Brooks so that he could control Main Street in the summer, complete with towing vehicles and correcting jay walkers? Especially the new breed that lead with the baby carriage from between parked cars while babbling on their cell phones?

Used to hear some people grumble that he was "bad for business" by being too harsh. Downtown was and is completely full in the summer, even if alligators were roaming the streets!
Richard W
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 07/23/2011 - 08:44:37
Man it`s brutal up here......almost hit 70!!!
Bruce
Eagle River, Alaska, USA - Fri 07/22/2011 - 20:44:26
It was HOT today; How hot was it? It was hot enough that the chowder man could have cooked up a batch on the pavement on main street in down town Chatham, thats how hot is was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wayne love
Dennis, MA USA - Fri 07/22/2011 - 18:44:05
Just read in THE CHRONICLE that Jeff Proudfoot is dead at the age of 50. This man was my contemporary. What happened?
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Fri 07/22/2011 - 16:45:20
You are so right Kathy, she will be missed, had many good years with her!!!
She was planning to move back to the Cape, very sad, to young!!
Kim Young <ksy1564@fairpoint.net>
Chatham, NH USA - Fri 07/22/2011 - 15:31:19
Kathy Nowak...would you please contact me at my email address. Sorry to hear about Linda Henderson. Her older sister, Joan, was in my CHS class. Anna Olson Woodland
Anna <capecodwood@comcast.net>
USA - Fri 07/22/2011 - 12:02:05
Sadly, we have lost another "Chathamite'......Linda Henderson passed away in Los Lunas, New Mexico. I believe she was in the process of moving back to Cape Cod next month. May she rest in peace....she will be missed.
Kathy Nowak
Sebastian, FL USA - Thu 07/21/2011 - 23:52:55
Carl,
Doesn't matter.
Debbie
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 07/19/2011 - 19:26:46
Debbie - do you think plastic would be better?
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 07/19/2011 - 18:19:00
Debbie - do you think plastic would be better?
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 07/19/2011 - 18:19:02
Tony, Preserved in what way? Wood signs?
Debbie
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 07/18/2011 - 19:26:03
I think where Barn Hill meets 28 is the last all wooden intersection in the country and needs to be preserved at all costs
Tony Murphy <redcat23@verizon.net>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Mon 07/18/2011 - 17:17:40
Seems not to matter what 90% of the natives who live here want - the turning lane to stay as it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jane
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 07/18/2011 - 14:45:56
It finally happened. I saw someone go the wrong way at the rotary today.
PFehlig <Mpfehlig@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 07/18/2011 - 14:15:35
Or perhaps if there were a light at George Ryder Road, the worse thing that could happen would be a light at Barn Hill Road. It appears to me that there's no room for compromise among the opposing camps. And we'll probably end up with the State telling us they won't do anything.
Debbie
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 07/17/2011 - 19:14:34
I'm with you Pete. The worst thing that could happen then would be a light at George Ryder Rd.
TOMMYDOANE <tommydoane@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 07/17/2011 - 19:01:42
I should think that one traffic light at barn hill rd. could take care of any summer traffic problems with beach trafic and if south beach should break through again causing an increase at Hardings the light would already be in place.
There are no other traffic lights between Crowell rd Chatham and dennis port and I see no need to have a granola type plan to cause West Chatham to loose more business from lack of a turning lane.
Just my opinion
pete
chatham, MA USA - Sun 07/17/2011 - 08:32:41
What about the turning lane at Rte 137............are they going to screw that one up too..................? ? ? ?
Carol Kelley
West Chatham, MA USA - Sun 07/17/2011 - 07:15:32
There's no turning lane in Dennisport at the stoplight on Rt. 28.
Debbie
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 07/16/2011 - 17:55:43
Not really. But not sure how they would do it. They would have to have turning lanes.
dan meservey <danmeservey@aol.com>
west chatham, MA USA - Sat 07/16/2011 - 14:08:55
Dan: Are you opposed to a stop light at George Ryder Road?
Debbie
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 07/16/2011 - 09:13:18
Dan, I think Gordon was pulling your chain on your ability (or lack thereof), to keeping your speed down below 20 Mph. You could also think about replacing the rotary with a dirt track but most folks may not remember that. Enjoy the weather there folks, it's darned hot out here in corn-country! jim
JimP
Scott Afb, USA - Fri 07/15/2011 - 23:08:44
Gordan, it seems like a "No Brainer". But it really depands on who they listen to. If they listen to most of the folks in the area, they will leave it alone and perhaps spruce it up.If you were just coming into the picture and attended some of the meetings at the Community Center. Listening to the Traffic consultant tell us how the state operates, and listen to the so called Village and Bussiness Assoc and their interests on making it a Harwichport like Village, and then the West Chatham Assoc, who would like to retain its simmilar character and maybe island like turning lanes, and then most of the local store owners who would like to leave it alone, one would almost say it is a No Brainer. But, maybe the decision is made by no brainers
dan meservey <danmeservey@aol.com>
west chatham, MA USA - Fri 07/15/2011 - 14:56:06
Dan Meservey....I consider you the Mayor of West Chatham...Now if MASSDOT was the governing body and made the decision to install the center turning lane way back when, then it's a no-brainer that they would never consider spending 2 or 3 times more money to change it back to 2 lanes !!!!! Now it's also a no-brainer that if and when a traffic light is installed at Barn Hill and RT 28 and if and when a round-a-bout is installed on your property at George Ryder and RT. 28, slowing the traffic will not be an issue. I will be very surprised if you will be able to drive more than 20 MPH between those 2 areas.....WHAT SAY YOU, MR. MAYOR ???
Gordon <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 07/15/2011 - 12:15:08
While the rest of the nation languishes in record heat, humidity, and drought, we are living in a lush, temperate Paradise, complete with beaches! I am grateful and don't even mind sharing it with those poor souls who have come here fleeing the 100+ degree heat.
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Fri 07/15/2011 - 11:58:12
I have a question about the West Chatham turning lanes. Was the state responsible for that change? And, can the town change them without permission from the state?
What about the possibility of a rotary that was mentioned some time ago?
I am not a fan of rotaries, but I used the one near the Kennedy Rink in Hyannis recently, and it is really much safer, and the rotary at Rt.39 and Old Queen Anne Rd in Harwich seems to have slowed traffic down as well.
Charlotte <jbsummers41@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 07/14/2011 - 16:01:54
It is very true. I am a lifeguard for Chatham and it washed ashore a few days ago and we have pictures. It is still there and is down near the lighthouse on hardings beach
Matt OBrien
USA - Thu 07/14/2011 - 12:20:54
Not a clue - hopefully the paper will have some pics. .
Judy
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 07/14/2011 - 08:01:15
How many teeth were left in the jaw?
Bob Ryder <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 07/14/2011 - 07:46:45
It was a lower jawbone of a sperm whale. One of my friends on FaceBook has pictures of it posted. The pictures that she posted look as though it was towed to the parking lot and hopefully removed. . .
Judy
W. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 07/13/2011 - 18:30:45
Does anyone know if there's any truth to the rumor that a whale washed ashore on Hardings Beach yesterday?
Walter
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 07/13/2011 - 17:35:30
Alice, according to CCT, they have reached an agreement with Jill but will be some time yet (earliest start date Aug 19):
http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110712/NEWS/107120321/-1/NEWS01
J Hallgren (as user)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 07/12/2011 - 02:12:03
Capt.Bob! Any possibility it's you
and you did not ask me to be your
best man? I would be so offended.
73's OM de T.P.
Tim P.
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 07/11/2011 - 20:18:23
Together with the Chatham 300 committee, The Chronicle is publishing a commemorative magazine to mark the anniversary next year. We're looking for stories and anecdotes about the town, primarily about people, the more quirky the better. We're also on the look out for old photos, particularly those that haven't been published before. You can email your stories or inquiries to me at twood@capecodchronicle.com. We're working on an October deadline.

BTW, selectmen slated to make announcement about new town manager at Tuesday's meeting.
Tim Wood <twood@capecodchronicle.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 07/11/2011 - 16:33:49
Coast Guard officer being married. Don't know his rank.
Bob Ryder <b r y d e r @ c 4 . n e t>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 07/11/2011 - 14:28:49
Does anyone know what is going on at the Lighthouse? There is a tent and stuff.
Wayne <alongshore2002@yahoo.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Mon 07/11/2011 - 14:14:39
What's the word on the "new" town manager? Do we have one?
Alice
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 07/11/2011 - 14:00:43
Andrewsy, I think you are confused about the opponents and propponents of the future of the roadway in West Chatham. The West Chatham Village and Bussiness Association (perhaps 1 or 2 of the current bussinesses) is pushing to take out the current turning lane and turn West Chatham into a walking village. As they have stated. Less auto dominancy. The West Chatham Association, which is made up of mostly residence is trying to retain the turning lane and perhaps have turning islands. Most of the current bussiness owners (atleast 14)have signed a petition to retain a turning lane. We believe West Chatham is an area that is used 12 months out of the year by local residence, and provides the entrance and exit for the Chatham village. WE can access our places of bussiness rather easily, and feel the during the busy summer months the turning lane provides a safe sancuary to wait for a time to turn left. That doesn't happen anywhere else on 28, and they want that to come to West Chatham. Thanks for your interest.
dan meservey <danmeservey@aol.com>
w. Chatham, MA USA - Sun 07/10/2011 - 21:46:57
Would just one of the proponents for a 3-lane highway in West Chatham please explain to the rest of us why it is anyone would feel compelled to park and "walk around" that area of town? What, exactly, is there to see or do in West Chatham that requires tree-lined walkways, bike paths, stop ;ights, crosswaolks, etc., etc.... ???
Are you just assuming Job Lot will offer it's parking lot to anyone who would want to actually "explore" this area on foot???
Andrewsy
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 07/10/2011 - 19:41:04
I had forgotten many of the people he had helped in his life, but you can read about it here:

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/southofboston-enterprise/obituary.aspx?n=reginald-l-nickerson&pid=152386097&fhid=2808
Chester Berne <cberne@itol.com>
WI USA - Thu 07/07/2011 - 19:32:18
Reggie rest in peace.
Irene God Bless America
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 07/07/2011 - 17:48:15
What an amazing tribute to a wonderful man...the funeral service today for Reggie Nickerson! He was a great person and inspiration to all who knew him! I truly loved the fact that when he asked "how are you"? He truly meant it and listened carefully to what you had to say! A real gentleman! Gale and family I hope your treasured memories will ease the pain of your immense loss! Cindy
Cindy E. <itsasin@comcast.net>
Harwich, MA USA - Thu 07/07/2011 - 16:14:21
Gail - re after the services today. Don't worry, the chowder will keep on coming, but sadly, one serving less.
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 07/07/2011 - 14:10:29
Today's standing room only service for Reggie Nickerson was a wonderful tribute to a very special man! When two of his sons rose to read aloud Alfred Lord Tennyson's "Crossing of the Bar"(Sunset and evening star, And one clear call for me!.....) there was not a single dry eye in the congregation.
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 07/07/2011 - 13:27:49
To all:

I also hope that Reggie will "Rest In Peace".
Reggie consistently let people know that he did not live in North Chatham but lived in Chathamport. The trouble started when the mail address became North Chatham. In my days involved with RCA it was always Chathamport. I live in Riverbay and it should be known as Chathamport but I am ZIP Code 02633.
I will try to keep the name Chathamport alive in Reggie's memory.

Regards to all Bill R.
William Ryder
Chathamport, MA USA - Thu 07/07/2011 - 12:05:42
Not living in Chatham, I don't get to put too many faces with names but I was lucky enough to meet Reggie Nickerson a number of years ago. He had a strong handshake, and a glad-to-meetcha infectious smile. My impression was that he would be a neat person to know better and I'm sorry I will never have a chance to do this.
Melissa
USA - Thu 07/07/2011 - 10:01:57
Check out the following you tube site to see another random act of culture, a little more upscale than the Orleans Stop and Shop. I welcome these happenings wherever they occur.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp_RHnQ-jgU&feature=related

It is of the Wanamaker Organ and the Hallelujah chorus in Philadelphia. Over 7 million people have seen this.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 07/06/2011 - 20:13:00
Oh, I wish I had been in the Orleans Stop and Shop... I just love it !!!
Jean Pratt <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 07/06/2011 - 19:24:55
Chester: I'd posted that S&S band video link on Facebook and another forum but never thought of putting it here...DUH! Maybe 'cause it was Orleans? Glad you did it!
J Hallgren (as user)
So. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 07/06/2011 - 10:50:10
Door County is also great for boating, lots of islands and reefs to avoid, but it's just not as good as the ocean.
Chester Berne <cberne@itol.com>
WI USA - Wed 07/06/2011 - 10:18:29
Flash Mob At Cape Cod Stop&Shop:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5lbNXNn3CI&feature=player_embedded
Chester Berne <cberne@itol.com>
WI USA - Wed 07/06/2011 - 10:16:09
I did not go to the parade on the 4th as I just cannot do that much walking after suffering a broken back ( thanks to a chiropractor ). I ran over to the S&S to pick a few items for our "annual" cook out and decided to come home the scenic route.....going 137 to 28. Everything was fine until I got to Ridgevale Road and the traffic was STOPPED ! ! ! It was bumper to bumper all the way down Route 28......people going down town to the parade. Never have I seen sooooooo much traffic. Where are they all coming from....and where are they ataying ? ? ?
Carol Kelley
USA - Wed 07/06/2011 - 08:09:27
Door County--I always wanted to go there.
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Tue 07/05/2011 - 09:08:59
Reggie Nickerson RIP
Cynthia Moore <cynthiamoore120@yahoo.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Tue 07/05/2011 - 08:28:05
Richard Swan was a dear friend and neighbor of ours since the fifties. My sister and I both waited table at the Queen Anne Inn to help put ourselves through college. He was a charming gentleman, a terrific thespian, and warm and welcoming innkeeper and a good friend to many.
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 07/05/2011 - 07:09:44
Hello all...was wondering if anyone remembers Richard Swan? I had a brief correspondence with him back in the 1980's...seems was a dear friend to the great Shirley Booth, also a resident in your wonderful town...
Howard Green <hgreen@uss.com>
Pinson, AL USA - Mon 07/04/2011 - 23:24:52
Ah...... Door County, WI. just like Cape Cod used to be. Pat and I did visit the Life Saving Station at Plum Island, way up there. Looked like Old Harbor Station, but very hard to get to.
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 07/04/2011 - 19:41:35
"Boy, this town is full. I have lived here for most of my 63 years and have never seen anything like today. Gridlock or almost on all the main roads. Back roads were better. Tomorrow should be a record at the parade. I will be on my bike."

That's what was nice about where we lived on the Mill Pond, we could take the back way to the A&P and just walk into town if we needed to, plus it was just about three blocks to see the parade! It's crazy here in Door County as well, especially since it's the first nice weekend this summer!
Chester Berne
WI USA - Mon 07/04/2011 - 17:54:22
Ben, did you hear it? Actually there were 2 others also this morning at 6 !!
Barry and Sylvia <barsyl4041@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 07/04/2011 - 14:12:41
As we celebrate the 4th of July with parades, boat rides, the beach, barbecues, lobster, frosty brews, and such, let us all remember the great freedoms that we have in this country and be grateful for them. Blessings to us all on this 4th of July!
Dana D Eilers <revdana@mindspring.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Mon 07/04/2011 - 13:19:12
By my observations, the entire Lower and Outer Cape is filled to capacity. I truly wonder just how smart people are who choose to bike on Route 28, from Orleans to Chatham, and return. I know they have a right to be on the roads as well as the cars do, but why can't they see the value of the Bike Trails as an alternative?
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@comcast.net>
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 07/03/2011 - 20:16:59
Boy, this town is full. I have lived here for most of my 63 years and have never seen anything like today. Gridlock or almost on all the main roads. Back roads were better. Tomorrow should be a record at the parade. I will be on my bike.
Wayne
West Chatham, MA USA - Sun 07/03/2011 - 19:54:14
Here's a nice thought from the past that has special meaning as we celebrate our country's birthday.

http://youtu.be/TZBTyTWOZCM

Happy 4th!

Walter from Chatham
Walter
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 07/03/2011 - 15:06:25
`twas 4th of July, 1980 when my favorite Army outpatient doctor and I eloped on Hilton Head , South Carolina. Seems there have been fireworks and parties every year since.
Bruce
Eagle River, Alaska, USA - Sun 07/03/2011 - 10:17:59
Must have been one of those "mega" wedding events!
Emily
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 07/03/2011 - 06:29:52
Apparently we had a fireworks display last night. I did not know this until I heard it from my house. I checked channel 5 fireworks checker and they list all the towns and dates of fireworks displays in MA and Chatham was not listed. Was this a closely guarded secret? I wish I knew, I would have come downtown with the kids to watch.
Matt <southchatham@hotmail.com>
South Chatham, MA USA - Sun 07/03/2011 - 06:14:06
Ben, turn your good ear to the east 3 a.m. Monday!!
Barry and Sylvia <barsyl4041@netzero.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 07/02/2011 - 22:45:23
Should I be expecting the echo of a cannon from Barry and Sylvia on Monday? Will there be a John Deere tractor in the parade? A chowdahman shucker?
Photos please
ben h
USA - Sat 07/02/2011 - 21:58:20
Happy 4th of July to all CHAT-M-Roomers!
john whelan <sockpirate@comcast.net>
chatham, MA USA - Sat 07/02/2011 - 16:28:57
Never heard this tribute from John Adams before but since July 2nd is our wedding anniversary, I think this quote is pretty awesome!
Jennifer
USA - Sat 07/02/2011 - 15:39:40
"The second day of July 1776 will be the memorable epochs in the history of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival. It ought to be commemorated as the Day of Deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires, and illumination from one end of this continent to the other from this time forward evermore."

John Adams
Carl Olson <cbolson@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 07/01/2011 - 21:42:04
Carl: I need some guidance on a Chatham commercial real estate question. Are you available this week? Thanks. Mr. Ryder, Let me know when you and your date are ready for that free lunch at CBI (you will however need to give Julie and I some Chatham history lore over lunch). I'm in Chatham now and ready to square-up on your Chat-M-Room Trivia question win from April! FYI, I'm jet lagged but we still fished for 5 hours this a.m. off Monomoy; got skunked. Fishing this last week was better in the Persian Gulf. But, it's sure great to be back in God's country.
E.W. Chapman <e.j.chapman@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 07/01/2011 - 21:07:27
Better than a dull line

Visit Pleasant Forest Shores Website CHAT-M-Room (TC) history for prior month

Chatham Historical Society